Tiger Airways website incompatible with US credit cards
#1
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Tiger Airways website incompatible with US credit cards
Sometime over the past month, Tiger Airways has instituted a fraud protection system that effectively shuts out credit cards issued in the US. CRs at Tiger refer me to Visa, Visa refers me to Tiger. "Verified by Visa" registration makes no difference. Transaction shows up as "declined" at Tiger, but no record of transaction at all at Visa. MC similarly declined. This incompatibility makes it impossible to book a seat online, and makes this a useless airline for me.
You'd think they'd figure this out.
You'd think they'd figure this out.
#2
Join Date: Aug 2001
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this lament sounds similar to one I had.
I attempted multiple times to book Malaysian Railways from the U.S. in late 2006 after "verified" was instituted. It was finally sorted out by my card issuer who was blocking the transaction as fraudulent.
I suggest that you call the card issuer and request that they not block (if not all foreign transactions, or at least transactions with Tiger) until further notice from you. Bank America is notorious for this type of nonsense. I have stopped using my Alaska Visa for this reason as well as the high foreign currency transaction fees.
Keep calling until you find a knowledgable customer service rep at the credit card company.
I suggest that you call the card issuer and request that they not block (if not all foreign transactions, or at least transactions with Tiger) until further notice from you. Bank America is notorious for this type of nonsense. I have stopped using my Alaska Visa for this reason as well as the high foreign currency transaction fees.
Keep calling until you find a knowledgable customer service rep at the credit card company.
#4
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 974
Similar problem trying to purchase Alsa ticket online
I had a problem that sounds very similar to this while trying to purchase an Alsa (Spanish bus company) ticket online using a Mastercard. I tried using Mastercards from 2 different Canadian issuers and neither worked. Since I needed to travel the next day I said the he_ _ with it and took the train.
Logically it would seem that the problem was with the merchant, because I have used the same credit cards for purchasing tickets online from numerous other European plane, train, and bus companies with no problem.
There is a fairly detailed page on the Tiger website;
http://www.tigerairways.com/home/vbv_mcsc.php
discussing the use of Verified by Visa and Master securecode, but it sounds like it is supposed to work whether your credit card has these security features enabled or not ?
Any other wisdom on this subject would be greatly appreciated, as I may be wanting to purchase Tiger Airways tickets in the near future.
Logically it would seem that the problem was with the merchant, because I have used the same credit cards for purchasing tickets online from numerous other European plane, train, and bus companies with no problem.
There is a fairly detailed page on the Tiger website;
http://www.tigerairways.com/home/vbv_mcsc.php
discussing the use of Verified by Visa and Master securecode, but it sounds like it is supposed to work whether your credit card has these security features enabled or not ?
Any other wisdom on this subject would be greatly appreciated, as I may be wanting to purchase Tiger Airways tickets in the near future.
#5
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 9
I tried making a Tiger reservation again, this time with my bank debit card, which has the Visa logo on it, and for whatever reason it worked. Of course it's not a "real" credit card. Which means that Tiger is selectively blocking. If you manage to find the e-mail address of the webmaster, or indeed, any e-mail address at all on their website, please let me know.
#6
Join Date: May 2005
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#7
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: RNO
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I booked a ticket yesterday on Tiger using a US issued MC. I had some trouble with several declines and had to accept their "verification system". I really don't know what that means, but I'm not too worried since my bank, USAA, is pretty good about correcting "issues".
Be really careful using a debit card online for anything!
Be really careful using a debit card online for anything!
#9
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USAA Mastercard
As mentioned above, I had to call my bank and get them to enter a notation into my account for frequent foreign transactions. The card finally used was a USAA Mastercard. There seem to have been no problems since with one sorta major exception, they managed to enter an asiarooms.com charge 4 times and a Vietnam-based one three times. In order to clear it up one has to write them a spedifically-worded form letter that they dictate to you. The wording must be exact, but what does one want from a military-minded credit card?
Be sure that you have suffiicent credit on your card to deal with these errors. Better the errors, IMO, then being declined someplace like Luang Prabang or Phu Quoc.
Be sure that you have suffiicent credit on your card to deal with these errors. Better the errors, IMO, then being declined someplace like Luang Prabang or Phu Quoc.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: U.S. (sometimes)
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I had the same problem with making purchases on Tiger Airways with a U.S. credit card. I called the credit card company and they said that no charges (accepted, declined, or whatever) had been made to the card. So, basically, Tiger never submitted the purchase to the credit card company. That makes sense, because I've used this card for other Asian airlines and never had a problem.
I tried calling their customer service center in Singapore, but that was a nightmare. Besides paying for the call I had to repeat everything several times and couldn't understand what they were saying. About 75% of the way through the transaction I lost the call. Rather than start over I just said "forget it".
That would be my advice to anyone else considering Tiger. I've never had any problems booking with Air Asia.
I tried calling their customer service center in Singapore, but that was a nightmare. Besides paying for the call I had to repeat everything several times and couldn't understand what they were saying. About 75% of the way through the transaction I lost the call. Rather than start over I just said "forget it".
That would be my advice to anyone else considering Tiger. I've never had any problems booking with Air Asia.
#12
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Have booked successfully before with a US Bank Visa, but the credit union Visa didn't work (the CU Visa also had Verified on it).
#13
Join Date: Feb 2007
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#15
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: RNO
Posts: 375
AirAsia seems to now be doing the same thing.
After limited success with Tiger using my USAA CC, I can't get it to work at all on AirAsia. AirAsia did accept my Citi card on the first try, so I guess I can live with a 3% surcharge to use that one.
USAA swears that they never see an attempted charge and are not declining anything. My suspicion is it is that crappy "SecureCard" which is causing the problem. Citi didn't go through it. AirAsia doesn't allow you to opt out.
After limited success with Tiger using my USAA CC, I can't get it to work at all on AirAsia. AirAsia did accept my Citi card on the first try, so I guess I can live with a 3% surcharge to use that one.
USAA swears that they never see an attempted charge and are not declining anything. My suspicion is it is that crappy "SecureCard" which is causing the problem. Citi didn't go through it. AirAsia doesn't allow you to opt out.