Capella Castlemartyr, Ireland - an unmitigated disaster!
Aug 8, 2008, 10:21 am
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in response to the suggestions of "discrimination" (etc) against new members and ireland.
1. see the 2 comments by JM2008 i bolded. they consitute ad hominem attacks against Raffles. (who has been a regular here quite some time.) i "dont think its fair" that people are defending that kind of behavior. especially from someone who joined solely to call Raffles names and basically call Raffles a liar, rather than saying they disagree/had a different experience/etc, especially without providing much explanation at all.
more information that supports Raffles (not that they need it) >
IMHO the evidence supports my implication that JM2008 works for capella. regardless of that, their behavior is still ridiculous.
2. see this >
(his recent RC trip report was terrible as well.)
and this >
and from a resident >
1. see the 2 comments by JM2008 i bolded. they consitute ad hominem attacks against Raffles. (who has been a regular here quite some time.) i "dont think its fair" that people are defending that kind of behavior. especially from someone who joined solely to call Raffles names and basically call Raffles a liar, rather than saying they disagree/had a different experience/etc, especially without providing much explanation at all.
more information that supports Raffles (not that they need it) >
I just heard that Capella's first hotel, Schloss Velden in Austria, is also having problems. A friend of mine just stayed there and told of similar horror stories, whereas when the hotel first opened, it was a gem.
Could it be that Capella are bringing in an opening team for a few months, then basically pulling the plug and moving on to the next new opening...
Could it be that Capella are bringing in an opening team for a few months, then basically pulling the plug and moving on to the next new opening...
2. see this >
and this >
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Aug 9, 2008, 9:26 am
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This thread is about the Castlemartyr hotel. Flyertalk is about points and miles.
To all of you: please stay on topic and stay away from comments on other members. Such comments are not welcome in our forum.
So please: back on topic.
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To all of you: please stay on topic and stay away from comments on other members. Such comments are not welcome in our forum.
So please: back on topic.
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Aug 9, 2008, 12:04 pm
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this thread (and RC thread) also discussed service problems in ireland (as reflected at the capella and RC resorts) due to a "recession" according to the article referenced by paul_ng5.
additionally, a potential systemic problem with capella - that they open strong, perhaps with a single team, and then move that team on to the next property when it is opening. now DUS is the property to watch.
additionally, a potential systemic problem with capella - that they open strong, perhaps with a single team, and then move that team on to the next property when it is opening. now DUS is the property to watch.
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Aug 9, 2008, 3:38 pm
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Aug 9, 2008, 3:59 pm
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yes. apparently [the IP address] was registered to capella's parent company.
nice work from the mods clearing that up. ^
nice work from the mods clearing that up. ^
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Aug 9, 2008, 9:43 pm
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Aug 9, 2008, 11:30 pm
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This Castlemartyr place sounds pretty crappy, gives the name a new meaning. Personally, I'd rather stay at "Castleanthrax"
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Aug 10, 2008, 2:43 am
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Right.
As it's not far down the road from me,I've decided to give this hotel/Resort a try.
Everywhere needs a second opinion.
It will probably be sometime in the next few weeks and I'll post my experiences here
As it's not far down the road from me,I've decided to give this hotel/Resort a try.
Everywhere needs a second opinion.
It will probably be sometime in the next few weeks and I'll post my experiences here
Aug 10, 2008, 3:50 am
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If you booked the Irish Times Euro 180 / night offer (breakfast, dinner, golf included) you'll get a fantastic deal. Quite frankly, for that price, its outstanding, however poor the service may be.
Aug 10, 2008, 10:35 am
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But doesn't the existence of an E180 rate including all those meals and golf, even as a limited time offer, tell you that the place isn't intending to play in the luxury hotel league (except maybe in Kuala Lumpur)?
Aug 10, 2008, 1:41 pm
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It is in fact located in the middle of nowhere beside a small village.
That kind of rate is on a par with the likes of Ashford Castle or adare Manor or Hayfield manor in Cork City.
I've seen some rates pitched at about 240 a night at the four seasons in Dublin.The market prices at what the market will bear.
Some Dublin hotels not in the four seasons league but with a bare 5 star status such as the Westin or the Shelbourne or the Westbury are often full at those kind of rates.
Aug 10, 2008, 2:34 pm
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That might be true if the hotel was located in say London or New York or somewhere similar.
It is in fact located in the middle of nowhere beside a small village.
That kind of rate is on a par with the likes of Ashford Castle or adare Manor or Hayfield manor in Cork City.
I've seen some rates pitched at about 240 a night at the four seasons in Dublin.The market prices at what the market will bear.
Some Dublin hotels not in the four seasons league but with a bare 5 star status such as the Westin or the Shelbourne or the Westbury are often full at those kind of rates.
It is in fact located in the middle of nowhere beside a small village.
That kind of rate is on a par with the likes of Ashford Castle or adare Manor or Hayfield manor in Cork City.
I've seen some rates pitched at about 240 a night at the four seasons in Dublin.The market prices at what the market will bear.
Some Dublin hotels not in the four seasons league but with a bare 5 star status such as the Westin or the Shelbourne or the Westbury are often full at those kind of rates.
Aug 10, 2008, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Disco Volante
Wow. If the hotel's response to Raffles' review is to (a) post a favourable review on a BB pretending to be a customer, and (b) call him a complainer, then the hotel must be seriously bad
If the capella supportive post came from a Capella ip address,it could have been anyone that made it and certainly is not proof that it was on the hotels say so.
To suggest that is a ridiculous over inference to make in my opinion.
It's just as ridiculous,I think, to draw conclusions on a hotel based on that inference.
[Having just seen,the moderators instructions on the matter,I'm editing the rest of my post so as not to directly refer to any particular poster here-my post is meant to be a general comment on how opinions should fairly be formed in my opinion-though to make my point I've left in the reference above as that is the point ].
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