My MAC has a phishing virus?
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My MAC has a phishing virus?
Is this even possible?
I'll admit I'm a bit vague about these things, but I thought phishing was in the form of emails to me that try to lure me into clicking a link and then filling in my user name and password to various sites.
I also have always heard that "MACs don't get viruses" and I haven't purchased any security program like I always did for my windows machines.
Now I've got a friend telling me that her security software <windows machine> says my emails to her have a phishing virus.
What should I do? Just haul my machine off the the genius bar and let them deal with it?
I'm really busy with work this week and only want to take the time to do this if it is really necessary.
I'll admit I'm a bit vague about these things, but I thought phishing was in the form of emails to me that try to lure me into clicking a link and then filling in my user name and password to various sites.
I also have always heard that "MACs don't get viruses" and I haven't purchased any security program like I always did for my windows machines.
Now I've got a friend telling me that her security software <windows machine> says my emails to her have a phishing virus.
What should I do? Just haul my machine off the the genius bar and let them deal with it?
I'm really busy with work this week and only want to take the time to do this if it is really necessary.
#2
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I'm guessing that some automatic phishing/spam operation is using an email address of yours that it found to send your friend a phising spam email. Ask your friend if your IP address is showing up in the headers of the email. My guess is that it is not.
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Agreed. Friends getting spam "from" you doesn't mean your computer is involved.
Anybody can send an e-mail that appears to be from your address.
Most likely a spammer got a hold of a list of addresses that included both your address and your friend's (probably by grabbing the address book off some mutual relative/friend's computer). The spammer put one address in the "to" field and one in the "from" field.
Anybody can send an e-mail that appears to be from your address.
Most likely a spammer got a hold of a list of addresses that included both your address and your friend's (probably by grabbing the address book off some mutual relative/friend's computer). The spammer put one address in the "to" field and one in the "from" field.
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So ask your friend what she exactly mean by Phishing Virus? Does her security system flag an Email as Spam/Phishing Mail or does it report a virus?
#6
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Yes, these are emails I've sent her. She says when she opens them she gets this warning from her program:
recognition pattern of the phish/lloydstsb.A a phishing file
She is using Avira Antvir as her security program which is apparently some freeware thing she downloaded.
Thanks to all who have answered and I would appreciate more advice.
recognition pattern of the phish/lloydstsb.A a phishing file
She is using Avira Antvir as her security program which is apparently some freeware thing she downloaded.
Thanks to all who have answered and I would appreciate more advice.
#8
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Your mac can and will get viruses and trojans just as a PC if you are not careful in how you use attached files or have your firewall disabled (always have it enabled) or surf to suspicious sites and accept the upgrade prompt for quicktime (which you should never accept unless you go to quicktime's own website). It is 100% user error when a computer of any make gets viruses or trojans. And I say that after having worked as customer support on an ISP and was the local virus guru for the companies around.
I am a mac user since 5 years now and I don't have antivirus on my mac - at all. I don't open attachments. I clean my cookies (just keep the ones I want to keep) regularly, I've ditched the office package completely and use iWork.
As long as Mac's only have a 14% market share we are pretty safe as the target machines for the hackers are the windoze (not a typo), non-secure machines (NT, 2000, ME, XP and Vista are as secure as a colinder will be useful for carrying water).
So in short, yes, you could be infected.
The other thing, this is a phish that is trying to target bank customers at Lloyds TSB bank. So unless that is the bank you use you should personally be safe. But if you have had an e-mail asking you to renew your username, password etc at your online banking by using the link provided in the e-mail, then immediately contact your bank and change your banking details, passwords, credit cards etc. Banks will never ask you to do such a thing in e-mail.
Clear your cookies, clean your cache, don't open attachments be a bit street wise and you will be OK. If it was a PC I'd tell you to bring out the artillery, chain it, padlock it and put it in a bomb proof shelter and you might be OK.
I am a mac user since 5 years now and I don't have antivirus on my mac - at all. I don't open attachments. I clean my cookies (just keep the ones I want to keep) regularly, I've ditched the office package completely and use iWork.
As long as Mac's only have a 14% market share we are pretty safe as the target machines for the hackers are the windoze (not a typo), non-secure machines (NT, 2000, ME, XP and Vista are as secure as a colinder will be useful for carrying water).
So in short, yes, you could be infected.
The other thing, this is a phish that is trying to target bank customers at Lloyds TSB bank. So unless that is the bank you use you should personally be safe. But if you have had an e-mail asking you to renew your username, password etc at your online banking by using the link provided in the e-mail, then immediately contact your bank and change your banking details, passwords, credit cards etc. Banks will never ask you to do such a thing in e-mail.
Clear your cookies, clean your cache, don't open attachments be a bit street wise and you will be OK. If it was a PC I'd tell you to bring out the artillery, chain it, padlock it and put it in a bomb proof shelter and you might be OK.
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I am a Mac user and have been for years. While I don't get very many viruses, you are living on the wild side by not having virus protection! YES!! go to the genius bar!!! and while you are at, buy a virus protection program, install it and check your machine.
Oh, don't forget to do a backup as well!!!
Oh, don't forget to do a backup as well!!!
#10
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In this same time period I've sent quite a few emails, both personal and business emails to customers. No one else has contacted me describing the same problem.
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Your mac can and will get viruses and trojans just as a PC if you are not careful in how you use attached files or have your firewall disabled (always have it enabled) or surf to suspicious sites and accept the upgrade prompt for quicktime (which you should never accept unless you go to quicktime's own website). It is 100% user error when a computer of any make gets viruses or trojans. And I say that after having worked as customer support on an ISP and was the local virus guru for the companies around.

The other thing, this is a phish that is trying to target bank customers at Lloyds TSB bank. So unless that is the bank you use you should personally be safe. But if you have had an e-mail asking you to renew your username, password etc at your online banking by using the link provided in the e-mail, then immediately contact your bank and change your banking details, passwords, credit cards etc. Banks will never ask you to do such a thing in e-mail.
Clear your cookies, clean your cache, don't open attachments be a bit street wise and you will be OK. If it was a PC I'd tell you to bring out the artillery, chain it, padlock it and put it in a bomb proof shelter and you might be OK.
Clear your cookies, clean your cache, don't open attachments be a bit street wise and you will be OK. If it was a PC I'd tell you to bring out the artillery, chain it, padlock it and put it in a bomb proof shelter and you might be OK.
#12
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That could easily be infected. I once rec'd an infected word .doc file which was an editorial release form, sent to me by the editor of a computer industry magazine for whom I was writing an article. If they can spread infections, so can your vendor or your mac.
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Oh, don't forget to do a backup as well!!!
And windows users, switch off the system restore thing or your virus will re-appear. One reason why the jury (me) is still out on deciding wether to use Time Machine or not.
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An afternoon later the PC was clean and the entire room had had a stern talking to about it all.
The other founder was out of town, returned that night and rang me at home to thank me.
PS. The viruses out there may not harm the mac but can be spread to PC via Email and harm them.
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The file I opened and then forwarded had no links to take one to a bogus sign in page or anything like that. I thought the goal of phishing is to get someone to enter sensitive info on a bogus sign in page.
Does anyone recognize the phish warning message I posted? What does that mean exactly?



