False advertising problem
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 548
I am rather intrigued at these responses. It really never occurred to me to check that the car was as represented. When the jump seat is folded down, it looks just like a regular luggage area. I really can't imagine going through a car every time I rent it to be sure there isn't some hidden problem or defect.
And, in my view, spending 1-2 hours out of my vacation to fix Hertz's mistake is quite unreasonable. I have very little vacation time each year and was spending a substantial amount of money to put up a group of family members at the hotel, to pay for theme park tickets, etc., so those 1-2 hours are expensive both in terms of my lost vacation time and the actual cash outlay for the vacation.
I also find it amazing that other consumers would think that some small print about "car capacity varying" should override a specific promise that the vehicle seats 7. I certainly never saw such a thing and can't imagine patronizing a company with such a policy. How on earth is one to plan a trip if you can't rely on the car transporting the promised number of people?
In any event, as one poster above suggests, I don't think I will ever rent a car at DW again. Taking cabs was fine when we were in a rush and the bus system was fine other times. And the responses above have convinced me (as I would have upon calm reflection) that it's not worth pursuing a small claims matter. But I find Hertz's response entirely unacceptable after 15+ years of patronage without ever complaining before. I will send one more letter to the CEO and, if I don't get a good response, I will just take my future business elsewhere. The free market in action.
And, in my view, spending 1-2 hours out of my vacation to fix Hertz's mistake is quite unreasonable. I have very little vacation time each year and was spending a substantial amount of money to put up a group of family members at the hotel, to pay for theme park tickets, etc., so those 1-2 hours are expensive both in terms of my lost vacation time and the actual cash outlay for the vacation.
I also find it amazing that other consumers would think that some small print about "car capacity varying" should override a specific promise that the vehicle seats 7. I certainly never saw such a thing and can't imagine patronizing a company with such a policy. How on earth is one to plan a trip if you can't rely on the car transporting the promised number of people?
In any event, as one poster above suggests, I don't think I will ever rent a car at DW again. Taking cabs was fine when we were in a rush and the bus system was fine other times. And the responses above have convinced me (as I would have upon calm reflection) that it's not worth pursuing a small claims matter. But I find Hertz's response entirely unacceptable after 15+ years of patronage without ever complaining before. I will send one more letter to the CEO and, if I don't get a good response, I will just take my future business elsewhere. The free market in action.
#17
Join Date: May 2005
Location: MDW/ATL/MSY
Programs: DELTA PM, Marriott Plat, Hertz PC, etc.
Posts: 391
I guess that means that you did not bring the issue to Hertz's attention at all until days after the rental ended.
That's equivalent to eating a full meal, paying the check, and sending the restaurant a letter a week later saying you didn't like the meal and want a refund. No dice.
That's equivalent to eating a full meal, paying the check, and sending the restaurant a letter a week later saying you didn't like the meal and want a refund. No dice.
#18
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: AMEX PLT, AA PPro, Spire AMB
Posts: 1,617
Apparently with the new Highlanders, there are 4, 5 and 7 seat versions. I was told I was being upgraded to a 5 and on my way to Yosemite I found out there was no middle seat.
So we're halfway to Yosemite, pick up my friends and we dont fit, they ended up driving another car...and no i could not go to an HLE and switch to a sedan because that wouldn't solve the luggage problem.
He gave me $50 my already very discounted rated and cut out the FPO and guaranteed me a prestige collection car when I see him next time...it wasnt so bad but 2 cars driving up there is tiring for one more person and basically 140 bucks worth of extra gas.
So we're halfway to Yosemite, pick up my friends and we dont fit, they ended up driving another car...and no i could not go to an HLE and switch to a sedan because that wouldn't solve the luggage problem.
He gave me $50 my already very discounted rated and cut out the FPO and guaranteed me a prestige collection car when I see him next time...it wasnt so bad but 2 cars driving up there is tiring for one more person and basically 140 bucks worth of extra gas.
#19
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,219
Your situation is different. The OP had a Hertz office about 1 mile outside of Walt Disney World. They also didn't appear to complain to Hertz until after the fact and expects compensation, even though they did not make any effort at all when it would have been a simple fix. Hertz might have even driven a new car over for a swap.
#20
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 548
I guess that means that you did not bring the issue to Hertz's attention at all until days after the rental ended.
That's equivalent to eating a full meal, paying the check, and sending the restaurant a letter a week later saying you didn't like the meal and want a refund. No dice.
That's equivalent to eating a full meal, paying the check, and sending the restaurant a letter a week later saying you didn't like the meal and want a refund. No dice.
#21
Join Date: May 2005
Location: MDW/ATL/MSY
Programs: DELTA PM, Marriott Plat, Hertz PC, etc.
Posts: 391
You wouldn't leave the restaurant without saying something to the waiter (and letting the restaurant offer to make things right); you can't return the car without saying something to Hertz and letting them offer to make it right.
#22
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 548
Well, I did raise it when I returned the car and was offered $50, which seemed inadequate. I figured from the outset that a situation like this would have to be resolved by writing to management so this wasn't an important part of the story for me.
#23
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,219
Hertz is probably thinking that if a customer waited until the end of the rental to complain, then the car probably met their needs, at least partially.
#24
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: alaska
Posts: 14
Ugghhhh
I work for Hertz. Do you want an explaination?
When you book, you have to realize that every auto manufacturer has several different kinds of vehicles. If you book a S.U.V., and need 7 passengers, then you should stop assuming everything is going to be peaches and cream and CALL HERTZ'S 800-NUMBER. The booking agent will put in the notes the kind of vehicle you need via cruise control, 7 SEATS, sunroof etc.
The class for a S.U.V. is the L class. The L class can have 5 OR 7 seats. It is not the rental companies responsibility to read your mind on what you will be doing on your trip.
This snot- nose yuppie lawyer better take it easy with his jibberish 'I'm gonna sue" dumb ... and get smart.
Geeeeeees.
When you book, you have to realize that every auto manufacturer has several different kinds of vehicles. If you book a S.U.V., and need 7 passengers, then you should stop assuming everything is going to be peaches and cream and CALL HERTZ'S 800-NUMBER. The booking agent will put in the notes the kind of vehicle you need via cruise control, 7 SEATS, sunroof etc.
The class for a S.U.V. is the L class. The L class can have 5 OR 7 seats. It is not the rental companies responsibility to read your mind on what you will be doing on your trip.
This snot- nose yuppie lawyer better take it easy with his jibberish 'I'm gonna sue" dumb ... and get smart.
Geeeeeees.
#25
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greener Pastures
Posts: 10,515
I realize cleaning the cars is tough, but stick it out. With an attitude like yours, you're sure to make check-in guy one day...although, I'd be suprised if you make manager...and if you do, I'd be suprised if you don't lose your job in a matter of weeks.
#26
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: alaska
Posts: 14
Thanks for "trying" to guess what I do dumb a$$ but if you should know I am a area manager for Hertz. That includes company car with gas completely covered. With that no car insurance on my behalf as well as other vehicle needed maintenance. Worked for Hertz going on 9 years this October.
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
#27
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bansko, Bulgaria
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,260
Thanks for "trying" to guess what I do dumb a$$ but if you should know I am a area manager for Hertz. That includes company car with gas completely covered. With that no car insurance on my behalf as well as other vehicle needed maintenance. Worked for Hertz going on 9 years this October.
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
#28
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: CLT
Programs: FT Member #8119 F & J Free Agent
Posts: 6,550
Thanks for "trying" to guess what I do dumb a$$ but if you should know I am a area manager for Hertz. That includes company car with gas completely covered. With that no car insurance on my behalf as well as other vehicle needed maintenance. Worked for Hertz going on 9 years this October.
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
#29
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greener Pastures
Posts: 10,515
Thanks for "trying" to guess what I do dumb a$$ but if you should know I am a area manager for Hertz. That includes company car with gas completely covered. With that no car insurance on my behalf as well as other vehicle needed maintenance. Worked for Hertz going on 9 years this October.
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
Any other assumptions? You must be a typical customer. Think you know it all. When nothing goes your way when you rent a car, you start blaming everything around you. Do us all a favor and rent from ACE rental. See how much happier you will be...
#30
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: alaska
Posts: 14
If you are renting elsewhere, thats fine. I still have my home, job and company car. The way the economy is going right now, I applaud you for still renting.
cheers