What is the most silly thing you have seen at a check point??
Jul 22, 2005, 8:32 pm
#121
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Umbrellas are pain in the butt to screen! IF you look at the signs that are posted at check-in some still say that umbrellas have to come out of the bags.
Jul 22, 2005, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Gargoyle
Most of the listed examples make sense, but confiscation a 10-speed Osterizer blender? Just confiscate the cutting blades, leave the rest. Confiscating c-clamps? they are no more a weapon than the latest Harry Potter book (which is a pretty heafty club). A caulking gun? The handle from a rollaboard is more of a weapon.
"FLY THIS PLANE TO ELBONIA OR I CALK YOU ALL!" <said while wildly brandishing calk gun>
or
"DON'T MAKE ME SET THIS THING TO FRAPPE - I'LL DO IT!" <uttered by a desperate member of the Smoothie Martyr Brigade>
Well, it could happen
Jul 22, 2005, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by red456
But I'll bet they didn't make him take off his shoes 'cause he was just a kid.
Jul 23, 2005, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
Some signs still say that umbrellas have to come out? I thought that TSA was supposed to standardize security.
Jul 23, 2005, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Gargoyle
Article today on the "arsenal" the TSA collects every day at ORD. About 1,300 items per day. They've only made $33,000 in two years selling that stuff on line, so they clearly are pretty bad at marketing (or the best items are going elsewhere?).
ORD collecting "arsenal"
Most of the listed examples make sense, but confiscation a 10-speed Osterizer blender? Just confiscate the cutting blades, leave the rest. Confiscating c-clamps? they are no more a weapon than the latest Harry Potter book (which is a pretty heafty club). A caulking gun? The handle from a rollaboard is more of a weapon.
ORD collecting "arsenal"
Most of the listed examples make sense, but confiscation a 10-speed Osterizer blender? Just confiscate the cutting blades, leave the rest. Confiscating c-clamps? they are no more a weapon than the latest Harry Potter book (which is a pretty heafty club). A caulking gun? The handle from a rollaboard is more of a weapon.
Jul 23, 2005, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by eyecue
NO TOOLS are allowed. THere is not a distinction between c-clamps ,caulking guns or fastener removers.
Jul 23, 2005, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
NO TOOLS are allowed. There is not a distinction between c-clamps ,caulking guns or fastener removers.
Tools used by scientists are allowed if they only use their fingers on the tools (iPods, calculators, pda's, etc.) but not if they use their entire hand (measuring tools, specimin gathering equipment, etc.).
Tools used by salespeople are allowed, but product samples are subject to the inspectors whim, er, I mean discretion.
Yardsticks are allowed, but tape measures are prohibited?
Do I sense a socio-economic discrimination/ economic profiling going on here?
Seriously, you make it sound like a simple, clear cut rule, but it isn't. It's all up to the individual inspector, and there is a huge grey area.
Jul 23, 2005, 7:49 pm
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Went through an airport, got to be one of the smallest to have pax service. About the size of the bus station in town. One gate, one security line, which opens 15 min. before boarding time. About 25 feet total from ID check to end of single file security down a straight hallway, so many family and friends wait at the rope by the ID check and give their final wave goodbye as the pax exits security.
On the other hand, if someone trips the MD it tends to hold up the whole line while the few screeners sort it out.
One of the first in line was an 18 year old girl who tripped the MD. Jeans and t shirt type, not a business FF type. Might have been her first flight. Rest of the RJ pax wait while they wand and wand her and finally figure it out and release her. The girl turns to face all of us in line behind her, and her four friends waiting at the rope, points an index finger directly to the center of each breast, and silently mouths the word "piercings" to her friends with a great big grin.
How I wish I had a video camera rolling. . .
On the other hand, if someone trips the MD it tends to hold up the whole line while the few screeners sort it out.
One of the first in line was an 18 year old girl who tripped the MD. Jeans and t shirt type, not a business FF type. Might have been her first flight. Rest of the RJ pax wait while they wand and wand her and finally figure it out and release her. The girl turns to face all of us in line behind her, and her four friends waiting at the rope, points an index finger directly to the center of each breast, and silently mouths the word "piercings" to her friends with a great big grin.
How I wish I had a video camera rolling. . .
Jul 23, 2005, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Flaflyer
One of the first in line was an 18 year old girl who tripped the MD. Jeans and t shirt type, not a business FF type. Might have been her first flight. Rest of the RJ pax wait while they wand and wand her and finally figure it out and release her. The girl turns to face all of us in line behind her, and her four friends waiting at the rope, points an index finger directly to the center of each breast, and silently mouths the word "piercings" to her friends with a great big grin.
How I wish I had a video camera rolling. . .
How I wish I had a video camera rolling. . .
Or, to ask more crudely, was she hot?
Jul 24, 2005, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Gargoyle
Not exactly. The rule is NO TOOLS which are used by blue collar workers, artisans, service workers or craftspeople. TOOLS used by white collar workers, consultants, politicians, bureaucrats, etc. are allowed.
Tools used by scientists are allowed if they only use their fingers on the tools (iPods, calculators, pda's, etc.) but not if they use their entire hand (measuring tools, specimin gathering equipment, etc.).
Tools used by salespeople are allowed, but product samples are subject to the inspectors whim, er, I mean discretion.
Yardsticks are allowed, but tape measures are prohibited?
Do I sense a socio-economic discrimination/ economic profiling going on here?
Seriously, you make it sound like a simple, clear cut rule, but it isn't. It's all up to the individual inspector, and there is a huge grey area.
Tools used by scientists are allowed if they only use their fingers on the tools (iPods, calculators, pda's, etc.) but not if they use their entire hand (measuring tools, specimin gathering equipment, etc.).
Tools used by salespeople are allowed, but product samples are subject to the inspectors whim, er, I mean discretion.
Yardsticks are allowed, but tape measures are prohibited?
Do I sense a socio-economic discrimination/ economic profiling going on here?
Seriously, you make it sound like a simple, clear cut rule, but it isn't. It's all up to the individual inspector, and there is a huge grey area.
There is no gray area. Tools aren't allowed if carried by a scientist, accountant or computer repairperson. If it can be used to cut, snip, screw, bolt, hammer, fasten, slice, solder, melt, pry, strip or disassemble, it ain't going in your carry-on.
Tape measures are not prohibited nor are electronic calibrators, sensors, and measurement devices. These are not considered tools.
The only profiling going on here is against those items which would allow someone to configure a bomb in flight. Is the list perfect? No. Is it complete? No. Does it address every single contingency? No. Is there some discretion allowed? Yes, but not in the way you describe it.
Jul 24, 2005, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
There is no gray area. Tools aren't allowed if carried by a scientist, accountant or computer repairperson. If it can be used to cut, snip, screw, bolt, hammer, fasten, slice, solder, melt, pry, strip or disassemble, it ain't going in your carry-on.
Back then we were allowed to carry retractable knives to open boxes. I mean if you had told someone you were going to hijack a plane with that they would have laughed at you. Times have changed.
Jul 24, 2005, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
I could almost buy this “computers out“ farce if a few planes had been brought down with a laptop.
He was flying the flight on MS Flight Sim in real time.
Not really actioned by a TSA, but still quite an amusing responce to "terror".
Jul 24, 2005, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by SirFlysALot
Sad to say, early in my career I used to carry all of those for computer and software installations.
Last time I did that was pretty funny, since I also had a 4-1/2 inch angle grinder with a diamond tipped blade and a 4 foot electrical cord. The inspector and the supervisor had no problem with my thirty sharp chisels, rasps, files, and hammers, but were really concerned about the angle grinder. I finally pointed out that the electric cord was only 4 feet long... to threaten someone I'd have to plug it in, stand there, and beg the "victim" to please come closer to me. They gave up and let me through.
Now when I need tools on site, I'll pick some of my second quality ones, not the best ones, and fedex them ahead of time.