Why No 777-200 JFK-MIA or JFK-LAX

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

Aug 24, 2004 | 8:23 pm

SMF777

Original Poster

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: SMF

Programs: AA Advantage, AF Frequence Plus, NW World Perks, RG Smiles, QF Frequent Flyer, SQ Kris Flyer

Posts: 210

Why No 777-200 JFK-MIA or JFK-LAX

With th huge demand for JFK-MIA, and JFK-LAX why isnt AA using any of the 777 equipment on those routes?

Aug 24, 2004 | 8:38 pm

azmmza

Join Date: Nov 2002

Location: LAX

Posts: 3,433

they use them on routes that need them even more

Aug 24, 2004 | 10:16 pm

BenjaminNYC

Suspended

Join Date: Jul 2004

Posts: 17,769

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMF777

With th huge demand for JFK-MIA, and JFK-LAX why isnt AA using any of the 777 equipment on those routes?

Because the 777s and configured 3 class, and they make money when people will pay five figures for an F class seat and mid four figures for a C class seat. Aint gonna happen domestic!

Aug 24, 2004 | 11:32 pm

1K-SFO

Join Date: Jul 2000

Location: San Francisco, CA USA // UA 1K 2 Million Miler, AA EXP 2MM, HH Diamond, SPG Plat // Easily found on SFO-ORDs

Posts: 2,726

And AA's very deliberate about keeping its international planes on international routes with the exception of a few re-positioning flights between hubs. The only for-demand (vs. re-positioning) non-international 777 flight I can think of is BOS-SDQ on weekends, and that's flown to increase utilization on weekend days that BOS-LHR doesn't fly. All other routes--ORD-DFW, DFW-LAX, LAX-MIA--are done strictly for moving the 777s through the system.

Aug 25, 2004 | 9:26 am

tismfu

Join Date: Jan 2003

Location: Dallas

Programs: AA EXP

Posts: 2,741

Don't forget MIA-DFW.

Aug 25, 2004 | 9:34 am

JonNYC

Suspended

Join Date: Mar 2001

Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST

Posts: 27,729

Quote:

Originally Posted by tismfu

Don't forget MIA-DFW.

More importantly, don't forget LIT-NRT

Aug 25, 2004 | 9:39 am

JonNYC

Suspended

Join Date: Mar 2001

Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST

Posts: 27,729

BTW:
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349285
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349157
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349163
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349198
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349160
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349158
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349156

Get some sleep, kid.

Aug 25, 2004 | 11:06 am

Stevefrombc

Join Date: Jun 2004

Location: South Florida

Programs: AA PLT 1MM, Hilton Gold, SPG Gold

Posts: 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMF777

With th huge demand for JFK-MIA, and JFK-LAX why isnt AA using any of the 777 equipment on those routes?

I don't see the huge demand for JFK-MIA. Sure there are lots of flights, but AA has to discount them and sell for under $200. With all the competition from NYC - FLL they can't be making much money on the route. I recently booked MIA-JFK $156 all in. The funny thing is that I could have beat that price using another carrier flying out of FLL. Seems like a waste of the 777 to me.

Just my 2c.

Aug 25, 2004 | 11:06 am

mwhitted

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: HRO/SGF (Home)/DFW (Work)

Programs: AA EXP/2MM, Marriott Silver

Posts: 1,623

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonNYC

More importantly, don't forget LIT-NRT

Aug 25, 2004 | 11:11 am

#10

SNA_Flyer

Join Date: Jul 1999

Programs: QF WP, AA EXP

Posts: 3,657

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonNYC

More importantly, don't forget LIT-NRT

That's right, they were going to put a Flagship L there.

Aug 25, 2004 | 11:21 am

#11

1K-SFO

Join Date: Jul 2000

Location: San Francisco, CA USA // UA 1K 2 Million Miler, AA EXP 2MM, HH Diamond, SPG Plat // Easily found on SFO-ORDs

Posts: 2,726

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonNYC

LOL.

Inquiring minds...

Aug 25, 2004 | 1:03 pm

#12

jeffreyt

Original Member

Join Date: May 1998

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posts: 5,524

That was a good catch JonNYC! LOL

I wonder what city pair will create the next post.

Aug 25, 2004 | 1:20 pm

#13

fly co to see the yanks

Suspended

Join Date: Dec 2001

Location: new york, ny, usa

Posts: 13,536

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonNYC

on an almost daily basis, there is a new thread asking why AA uses this plane instead of that plane or complaining about using a 757/737/regional jet on a particular route.

can't we just assume that the MBAs in dallas that have access to all of the data (loads, fare classes typically bought per route, etc.) are using said data to maximize the profits of the airline thereby hopefully keeping said airline afloat thereby increasing the probability that said MBAs will stay employed thereby insuring paychecks and (flight) benefits to/for said MBAs?

Aug 25, 2004 | 2:13 pm

#14

ynewman

Join Date: Jul 2002

Location: LAX. AA EXP, *W Gold

Posts: 585

Quote:

Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks

But are you convinced they are MBAs? I am willing to bet that MBAs run the department, but it is statistics PhDs and MScs that do the real (read: back office) work.

Seriously, SMF777 is on to something. Can we open an 'Only SMF777' board just for him?

Aug 25, 2004 | 2:17 pm

#15

Boraxo

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Dec 2002

Location: Danville, CA, USA;

Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat

Posts: 18,103

By all means. And then AA can shift all those extra 767s to the SMF routes, because the flights are all "packed," rather than to SFO or SJC where 757 slave ships rule the transcons.

Reply Share

First
Prev
1 / 2
Next
Last

Forum Jump