OW100F Award..Only $37.95 in Taxes for 10 Segments...Can This Be Right??
May 24, 2005, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by MCI777
Yes. I did my research before calling and laid out a tentative itinerary by using the the award search features on the Cathy website and Lan website (I had to join each airlines FF programs). The BA portion was hit or miss but I had read that F availability from DXB was available most of the time. Once my itinerary was laid out, I called the AA International award desk. I happened to speak with an agent who understood what I was trying to do and I gave them what I wanted segment by segment
Unfortunately, Iberia only operates Business Plus class now on their A340's. Since this was the only thing available from MAD-EZE (No LAN availability), I had to suck it up and go with Business class. I hope its not as bad as I have read.
Unfortunately, Iberia only operates Business Plus class now on their A340's. Since this was the only thing available from MAD-EZE (No LAN availability), I had to suck it up and go with Business class. I hope its not as bad as I have read.
May 24, 2005, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by johnep1
Why don't you stop for 23 hours in each city? Doesn't it only count as a stop if it's over 24 hours?
"Passenger has 4/6 hours to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.
If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4/6 hour window and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4/6 hour window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It is not necessary to check every flight/carrier to ensure passenger is booked on next scheduled flight. "
May 24, 2005, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
No, you can't specify a long connection. The rule is:
"Passenger has 4/6 hours to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.
If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4/6 hour window and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4/6 hour window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It is not necessary to check every flight/carrier to ensure passenger is booked on next scheduled flight. "
"Passenger has 4/6 hours to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.
If there is a non-stop flight that departs after the 4/6 hour window and arrives at the destination earlier than a connecting flight within the 4/6 hour window, the passenger may be booked on the non-stop flight. It is not necessary to check every flight/carrier to ensure passenger is booked on next scheduled flight. "
May 24, 2005, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
No, you can't specify a long connection. The rule is:
"Passenger has 4/6 hours to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.
"Passenger has 4/6 hours to connect (depending on domestic or international travel). If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, the passenger must take the next scheduled flight but, may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.
IBERIA
6843 MAD Madrid 11/25/2005 11:40 PM EZE Buenos Aires 11/26/2005 06:55 AM Business unassigned
LAN CHILE
460 EZE Buenos Aires 11/26/2005 01:15 PM SCL Santiago 11/26/2005 03:30 PM Business unassigned
May 24, 2005, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by timid_trnchcoat
I don't think this applies to oneworld award tickets.
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May 24, 2005, 10:35 pm
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FWIW (or FWINW), OneWorld awards issued by Cathay seem to have some slight variation in implementation than OneWorld awards issued by American. [And don't even get me started about BA.]
May 24, 2005, 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
FWIW (or FWINW), OneWorld awards issued by Cathay seem to have some slight variation in implementation than OneWorld awards issued by American.
May 24, 2005, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
CX OW awards are very different, not slightly different.
At one time, OW awards were supposed to be standardized, and so the template rules were used as a basis of what to do for implementation. However, times do change and the airlines rule the roost more than some scratch-my-back-scratch-your-back entity.
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May 24, 2005, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Yes. Very different in implementation and slight variation are not mutually exclusive. Each has its own place for its own purpose, some for better and some for worse.
May 24, 2005, 10:45 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
Yeah, sure-- that makes perfect sense.
May 24, 2005, 10:48 pm
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AA seems to enforce the 4/6 hour rule on a hit or miss basis. I had one supervisor who was very unyielding and enforced on everything I tried to book. Most of the agents never even mentioned it however and in the end AA ok'd it,, so go figure.
May 24, 2005, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by MCI777
AA seems to enforce the 4/6 hour rule on a hit or miss basis. I had one supervisor who was very unyielding and enforced on everything I tried to book. Most of the agents never even mentioned it however and in the end AA ok'd it,, so go figure.
May 24, 2005, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by MCI777
AA seems to enforce the 4/6 hour rule on a hit or miss basis. I had one supervisor who was very unyielding and enforced on everything I tried to book. Most of the agents never even mentioned it however and in the end AA ok'd it,, so go figure.
The 6-hour rule at the time has hit me with AAdvantage ticketing before; so even if the EXP desk went ahead and set up an award ticket the way I wished, I've had it come back and be rejected (even after the paper award ticket was delivered). [A polite letter communicating the trouble which resulted from that post-ticketing change yielded a voucher for $200.]
So apparently in my situation there was the EXP desk, "ticketing" and then a "post-ticketing" review. This last thing resulted in changes to an already-issued paper award ticket whereby my new schedule was not properly reflecting flights/flight times on the paper ticket in hand.
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May 24, 2005, 10:58 pm
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I thought there was a recent thread in the OW forum stating that the 6 hour international rule has been eliminated by AA and is now back to 23 hrs 59 minutes.
Anyway, do any other OW carriers besides AA calculate OW award mileage based on the destinations as opposed to the sum of the individual city pairs?
Anyway, do any other OW carriers besides AA calculate OW award mileage based on the destinations as opposed to the sum of the individual city pairs?
May 24, 2005, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
How many AAgents do you know to have pulled up your record?
The 6-hour rule has hit me with AAdvantage ticketing before; so even if the EXP desk went ahead and set up an award ticket the way I wished, I've had it come back and be rejected (even after the paper award ticket was delivered). [A polite letter communicating the trouble which resulted from that post-ticketing change yielded a voucher for $200.]
The 6-hour rule has hit me with AAdvantage ticketing before; so even if the EXP desk went ahead and set up an award ticket the way I wished, I've had it come back and be rejected (even after the paper award ticket was delivered). [A polite letter communicating the trouble which resulted from that post-ticketing change yielded a voucher for $200.]