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Old Jun 24, 2005, 12:31 pm
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"Ride Report" - 2005 Ford Five Hundred / Mercury Montego

While the Ford Tortoise—er Taurus—will remain in production for Hertz (and other rental companies), the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego are the replacement models for the general public and, as such, are also appearing in the Hertz rental fleet.

My vehicle was the Mercury Montego Luxury Edition, but other then trim, the car is identical to the Ford Five Hundred.

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The Montego and Five Hundred are both classified as YF - Specialty Fullsize.

Both vehicles come with a 3.0 liter DOHC V6 generating 203hp and 207 lb-ft of torque. While these numbers are the same as the pushrod Duratec V6 in the Taurus, this engine is much more willing to rev and will rev higher. The engine is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission which is quite happy to kick-down when necesary and is pretty smooth in shifting. Mileage on the highway with AC on was 25mpg.

The ride is "floaty", but not horribly so. The 17" wheels help with the handling, which is decent enough but not "sporty" by any measure. ABS is standard and my car came with TC. Braking is quite good.

This car is king for rear-seat legroom. Even with the front seat all the way back, rear knee room is excellent. However, for long-legged drivers (I am 6'2"), the legroom is tight. My right knee had to rest against the wide center stack and that quickly became uncomfortable. I'm not sure I could do 100-200 miles in this seat without a pillow or something. There is a true dead-pedal, so my left leg didn't rub against anything.

The steering wheel is large and leather-wrapped, though there is no cushioning over the plastic underneath. Fortunately, you have many places to move your hands when they start to cramp. Cruise and radio controls are on the wheel, as is the trip computer controls.

The radio is AM/FM/CD and sounds decent enough for a factory deck. My car came with cloth seats and Neverlost. I have seen Five Hundreds with leather and moonroof, so Hertz seems to be getting a mix of vehicles. The driver seat is six-way power with manual lumbar and backrest.

If you are hauling four big people, these cars have as much interior room as a Grand Marquis/Crown Victoria and get better mileage. I'd still pick an Impala if I had to travel some distance, and a Camry SE if it was just me. But it is a nicer and more comfortable ride than the Taurus.
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Old Jun 24, 2005, 1:03 pm
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SEA_Tigger just beat me to the punch! I just finished a rental with the 500.

Overall, I was favorably impressed. As noted, the acceleration was much better than I remember in the Taurus. My vehicle had leather seats and a Moonroof, which came in handy on the traffic choked Edens expressway. Lots of legroom for my 5'9" frame. Fake wood grain accents are nice.

Powerful air conditioning unit. The stereo system was nice, although I had poor reception on some stations I normally have no trouble with. Not sure if that's a vehicle flaw or not. The display is a bit dark for my taste as I had trouble seeing it in the daytime.

But, compared to a Taurus, this is a step up. When renting F class (or lower), if I see a 500 in my stall, I'll be pleased. Not as pleased as I would be with a Camry or G35, but pleased nonetheless.
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Old Jun 24, 2005, 4:19 pm
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I had a 500 in SFO

A few weeks ago.

I felt that it was a huge improvement over the taurus.

The styling both inside and out was bland, but it was a good enough driving car.

I did notice that the turn signal generated a rather loud audible inside the car, even my business associate commented on that.

As a rental i would take one any day of the week over a Taurus, but wouldnt EVER consider buying one.
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Old Jun 25, 2005, 12:10 am
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I did notice that the turn signal generated a rather loud audible inside the car, even my business associate commented on that.
Well it's gotta be loud to be heard by the hard of hearing folk that are largely going to be buying this pleasant but bland vehicle.
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Old Jun 25, 2005, 12:10 am
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I expect to see lots of 500's start replacing the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis. I believe the reason they are really starting to show up now is because Ford's having problems selling them.

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A solid, but unexciting entry in a crowded field, the Five Hundred's sales have been slow to gain momentum. Even now, that model, along with the Freestyle wagon version and Mercury's Montego, are selling at an annual pace of 190,000 cars -- still below the 200,000-plus Ford hoped to sell and the 250,000 cars annually that its factory could build.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...0215_db016.htm

Could be worse, could be a lot better...I'd take a 500 over any GM sedan though.
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Old Jun 25, 2005, 7:03 pm
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What trim level was the 500 that Hertz orders? ( SE,SEL,Limited)? What do they come with?

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Old Jun 25, 2005, 8:50 pm
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I know they have some SELs (with leather and moonroof).
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Old Jun 28, 2005, 1:38 am
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Better than Taurus, I'll take the Impala any day!!

I reserved a midsize car for 2 days & just returned at LAX. My name wasn't on the board so I went inside. My choices were a SUV & Buick Century. I get Century alot so I wanted to drive something different. The counter agent came up with Ford 500. I took it.

We went up to Vegas & back. My g/f complained that the seat wasn't comfortable. She had to sit on stuff so her back wouldn't hurt. She went with me over Memorial Day weekend in the Buick Century & the seats were comfortable to her.

Gas mileage was about 26.5 mpg for 90% freeway driving & 10% city. I averaged 70-75 with the A/C on. My mpg was 26-27 for the GM that has a V-8 & is a larger/heavier car.

The 500 is greatly improved over the Taurus. Much better gas mileage, better acceleration & more room. The ride was somewhat bumpy & not as good as a Toyota Camry.

I drove 679 miles on this rental.

Bottom line: Would I rent this car again? If I didn't need to drive very far. (under 200 miles). I would take the Impala any day!!! Better gas mileage, better acceleration, better ride & a joy to drive. (for me anyway).
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Originally Posted by SEA_Tigger
The Montego and Five Hundred are both classified as YF - Specialty Fullsize.
i just rented a 500 at HOU, and found it labelled class "G4".
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Old Sep 23, 2005, 3:34 pm
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Two words:

bland
slow

I think I still would prefer the Vic or GM instead of these warmed over Taurus/Sables.

These are not premium vehicles, YF at best.
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If I had to use two words they would be –
Loud &
LOUD

My F250 Powerstroke Diesel is quieter than the 500SEL (leather, sunroof). Less engine noise, and less road noise even though I have heavyduty tires on the truck.

I drove one 2300+ miles, 26.3 MPG overall, but the road noise and the engine noise make me wonder if Ford left out the sound insulation in this unit.

HOU had this car classed as YG (speciality prem) – that's a long reach. It's better than a Taurus, but not much. I won't even call this car a G. It's a YF – maybe.

I'll take a Grand Mar. or Camery anyday over one of these.
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Old Nov 9, 2005, 9:11 am
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Well evidently the Ford Fusion is the Taurus replacement. The 500 may very well end-up replacing the Grand Marquis, or it's just a "Taurus-Plus".

So far all of mine have been YFs, whether they are SELs (with leather, sunroof, auto climate control, and info center), base models (with/NL), or Montegros (which have some of the options the SELs do like auto-climate control and info center).

The base 500 is no fun, period. If you get one, demand a Montegro, at a minimum. I do like the SELs since they have leather, sunroof, and all the extras the Montegro come with.
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Originally Posted by Seat1A
i just rented a 500 at HOU, and found it labelled class "G4".
I've got one from DFW this week, and it's also a G4 (SEL model).

BTW, Ford just released specs on the new 3.5L Duratec that will be replacing the 3.0L Duratec across the board. 250 hp and a six-speed auto... ^



FORD UNVEILS NEXT-GENERATION V-6 ENGINE TO POWER ONE IN FIVE VEHICLES BY END OF DECADE
New 250 hp 3.5-liter V-6 key to Ford’s future, powering one in five of the company’s North American products by the end of the decade
New engine offers better performance, fuel economy and emissions
New V-6 debuts next year on the Ford Edge and Lincoln Aviator crossover utility vehicles
Mated to new 6-speed automatic for up to a 7 percent improvement in highway fuel economy
Engine designed with the future in mind – capable of super-clean PZEV emissions, hybrids, direct-injection and turbocharging

DEARBORN, Mich. Nov. 9, 2005 – Ford today unveiled its new 3.5-liter V-6 engine, a more powerful and cleaner engine that eventually will be under the hood of one in five Ford products in North America, including the new Ford Edge and Lincoln Aviator crossover utility vehicles (CUVs) debuting next year.
“Our new 3.5-liter V-6 is a key component in Ford’s global powertrain strategy, which is to provide what customers want, when they want it,” says Barb Samardzich, Ford vice president of Powertrain Operations. “This powertrain is an innovative solution to answering the call for better fuel efficiency, more refinement, more power and clean emissions, without any sacrifices.”

The new engine will be mated to a new 6-speed automatic transaxle in the Ford Edge and Lincoln Aviator. The combination will deliver improved fuel economy of up to 7 percent and improved sustained acceleration compared with a typical 4-speed automatic.

Power in a Compact, Modern Package
Ford’s new V-6 produces 250 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque with a 3.5-liter displacement unit with a height and width that is the same as Ford’s smaller Duratec 30 V-6. This enables Ford to install the engine in a wide variety of current and future products.

In developing the new engine, Ford engineers targeted excellent performance, fuel economy and low exhaust emissions. In addition, engineers designed the engine to work together in harmony with Ford’s new 6F 6-speed automatic. By analyzing the transaxle and engine together, noise, vibration and harshness characteristics of the powertrain were optimized to ensure a quiet, trouble-free driving experience.

The all-new 3.5-liter V-6 architecture provides significant flexibility to incorporate additional engine technologies. The 3.5-liter engineering team included extra provisions to make upgrades relatively simple. These upgrades include such potential features as hybrid capability, gasoline direct injection and direct-injection turbo charging.

A Solid Foundation – Durability and NVH
Every world-class engine starts with a solid foundation. To optimize the base engine structure to provide outstanding durability and NVH, the lower-end design of the 3.5-liter engine features a forged-steel, fully counterweighted crankshaft with induction-hardened journals, fractured-split, powder metal-forged connecting rods and high-temperature alloy, cast aluminum pistons. These components are housed in a High Pressure Diecast (HPDC) aluminum cylinder block featuring six-bolt mains with cast in cast-over iron liners.

The engine’s cylinder block design represents the first application of a high-pressure die-cast block for a V-configuration engine for Ford Motor Company. Ford chose HPDC over more conventional semi-permanent and sand casting processes because:

Reduced raw material requirements (lower weight than if designed for conventional sand casting)
Tighter casting process control capability
Better and more consistent casting qualities
Elimination of reliance on casting processes that have byproducts requiring strict environmental controls
Reduction of expensive post-casting processing (cleaning, heat treating, machining and assembly) requirements
Ford deployed extensive CAE modeling to reduce lead-time, optimize die design and simulate critical process parameters to help ensure a consistent, robust casting.

High Airflow, Optimized Combustion – Performance, Fuel Economy and Emissions
The 3.5-liter V-6’s upper-end was designed as a system, all the way from the throttle body to the exhaust manifolds, to create the optimum flow for peak power and a broad torque curve. CAE analysis was used to fine-tune each component to deliver the required airflow without the need for intake flaps or butterfly valves in the system. Advanced throttle-control software enables precise tuning of engine response to fit the character of each vehicle application while setting the engine to run at its peak efficiency for optimal fuel economy.

The 3.5-liter V-6 uses a compact, lightweight dual-overhead cam valvetrain for peak power capability and smooth operation at high RPMs. The engine also incorporates intake variable cam timing (iVCT) to optimize valve timing for a smooth idle, optimal part-load driving and an impressively broad torque curve with good power. The iVCT system uses a hydraulically actuated spool valve that can rotate the intake camshafts up to 40 degrees within a half-second. A low-friction, roller-chain cam drive contributes to fuel efficiency.

Optimized Cylinder Head Produced with Flexible Machining
The aluminum cylinder heads in Ford’s new V-6 are designed for high airflow and optimized combustion to support performance, fuel economy and low emissions. CAE was used extensively to develop the airflow and combustion system performance for this cylinder head design. This efficient combustion is enhanced by incorporating a centrally located spark plug and a high 10.3:1 compression ratio. The cylinder heads also were designed to accommodate fuel-efficient technology upgrades such as gasoline direct injection.

Low Emissions Capability
Ford’s new 3.5-liter engine is PZEV capable right out of the box. Careful design consideration for the combustion system and catalysts create an engine that can meet stringent emissions standards without the need for expensive add-on technology.

“The 3.5-liter V-6 is capable of achieving PZEV certification by delivering low cold-start emissions and enabling rapid catalyst light-off, which is a significant accomplishment for a larger displacement V-6 engine,” says Tom McCarthy, engine systems manager for the 3.5-liter V-6 engine program. This is accomplished with low heat-loss exhaust manifolds and close-coupled catalysts for fast light off during cold start. Optimized fuel injector targeting minimizes cold-start emissions before the catalysts reach operating temperature.
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Old Nov 11, 2005, 5:22 pm
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I recently rented a Mercury Montego. I was impressed with the ride and handling.

Previous to the rental I didn't like the styling of the 500 and Montego. I have owned Mercury Sables for quite a while.

I would consider buying one now after my rental. I liked the sound of the turn signal.
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