LFBU: Non-elite, space-available, counter and kiosk upgrades (obsolete)
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LFBU: Non-elite, space-available, counter and kiosk upgrades (obsolete)
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Last edited by dstan; Jan 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm Reason: updated 31 Dec 2011
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Is it reasonable to assume they will now hold back inventory for these types of upgrades, making it even harder for elites to get sticker upgrades?
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Originally Posted by catwings01
Is it reasonable to assume they will now hold back inventory for these types of upgrades, making it even harder for elites to get sticker upgrades?
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Interesting - since it will only be offered thru the self-service kiosks, passengers on international trips won't be offered an upgrade on an originating domestic segment even though everyone else might be offered the upgrade. Example: IND-ORD-LHR where the pax is not upgraded on the ORD-LHR segment. IND-ORD often has empty F seats (as does IND-DFW), yet the LHR customer won't be offered the upgrade.
That's bound to make a favorable impression once word of that gets around.
That's bound to make a favorable impression once word of that gets around.
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Sounds like online check-in doesn't count as self-service?
Also, are $50/sticker upgrades higher on the priority list than $25/sticker upgrades from GLD/PLT?
Also, are $50/sticker upgrades higher on the priority list than $25/sticker upgrades from GLD/PLT?
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Very interesting. Kudos to AA for finding a new way to generate revenue without upsetting the masses (I'm being serious). ^
I assume the LFBUs will come out of X inventory?
Cheers,
LBBZman
I assume the LFBUs will come out of X inventory?
Cheers,
LBBZman
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
IND-ORD often has empty F seats, yet the LHR customer won't be offered the upgrade.
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Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Well, there goes the neighborhood...
Well, at least "those people" will be charged twice as much as the PLTs and GLDs, so it will still be a more exclusive community. . .
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"elite customers traveling in the main cabin on award tickets"
I guess I finally figured out how upgrade that award ticket
I like this part too
"if a customer accepts the lfbu offer and subsequently experiences a flight cancellation, we should attempt to honor a premium cabin seat on the *protect* flight.
if unable to accommodate in premium cabin, the
customer will be entitled to a refund"
I guess I finally figured out how upgrade that award ticket
I like this part too
"if a customer accepts the lfbu offer and subsequently experiences a flight cancellation, we should attempt to honor a premium cabin seat on the *protect* flight.
if unable to accommodate in premium cabin, the
customer will be entitled to a refund"
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Originally Posted by j3823x
Also, are $50/sticker upgrades higher on the priority list than $25/sticker upgrades from GLD/PLT?
It doesn't appear that the LFBU is a waitlist instrument, rather it appears that it is confirmed at check-in.
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Depending on how one reads this:
"in addition to how many aadvantage members are waitlisted for an upgrade"
There's certainly room for *hope* that the l.f.b.u.'s won't even be offered if there are (numerous) elites waiting to upgrade.
One would hope/assume that they would have a priority lower than Gold.
Could get messy if not handled well by AA...
"in addition to how many aadvantage members are waitlisted for an upgrade"
There's certainly room for *hope* that the l.f.b.u.'s won't even be offered if there are (numerous) elites waiting to upgrade.
One would hope/assume that they would have a priority lower than Gold.
Could get messy if not handled well by AA...
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It all boils down to how it takes into account the upgrade waitlist. If these new upgrades take priority over elites on the waitlist, then there is a problem. My guess is there will be a little of both. I like the fact that it may allow you to upgrade an award ticket, isn't that new???
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Originally Posted by cme2c
..I like the fact that it may allow you to upgrade an award ticket, isn't that new???