Changes to MM qualification and benefits?
Mar 8, 2006, 10:27 pm
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Changes to MM qualification and benefits?
I reached 1MM at the end of December and after patiently waiting almost two months I called the EXP line to ask where my MM kit was. The agent told me that I had only just made 1MM since they were now counting flown miles only. The 8 upgrades posted this week, but when I called to swap them for 4 eVIPs I was told that there is no longer any way to do that. Is it just me, or is this new AA policy?
Mar 8, 2006, 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by EyeFlyDoc
Is it just me, or is this new AA policy?
As for the fact that they claim they're counting flight miles only - that's a new one on me.
Mike
Mar 8, 2006, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by EyeFlyDoc
...The agent told me that I had only just made 1MM since they were now counting flown miles only.
Mar 8, 2006, 10:32 pm
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The 1MMers who got 4 VIPs were those 1MMers whose accounts were resident overseas when the 1 million mile threshold was crossed/recognized; 1MMers whose accounts are resident in the US have been getting 8 500-mile sticker upgrades. This is not new and has been the case for at least 5 years, if not more.
Mar 8, 2006, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by EyeFlyDoc
The agent told me that I had only just made 1MM since they were now counting flown miles only.
Mar 8, 2006, 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
1MMers whose accounts are resident in the US have been getting 8 500-mile sticker upgrades. This is not new and has been the case for at least 5 years, if not more.
Mar 8, 2006, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
Some were allowed to swap them less than five years ago; but yes that ended a while ago to.
)I was commenting that it's been the case -- for at least 5 years -- that 1MMers were automatically credited with 4 VIPs if the account was resident overseas or 1MMers were credited with 8 500-mile sticker upgrades if the account was resident in the US. That's been the case for at least 5 years.
There is still the "residence swap" option (i.e., move the AAdvantage account residence overseas prior to 1MM qualification) to get the 4 VIPs. [That hasn't ended yet.]
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Mar 9, 2006, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
This shouldn't cause any panic here or anything like that.
I passed 2MM on Jan24th and up until 4 days ago it still was not reflected in AAs systems. I called AS 3 times already and today was my 4th. They are closed right now but EXP desk told me my account does now reflect 2MM - so there is no policy change yet.
They said they are behind due to year end close and going through all the exceptions that are being requested.
The additional 4 VIPs still aren't in my account yet but at least its showing 2MM on my profile. Can't wait for the letter with LifeTime Platinum.
Mar 9, 2006, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by TravelGuy1965
The additional 4 VIPs still aren't in my account yet but at least its showing 2MM on my profile. Can't wait for the letter with LifeTime Platinum.
Mar 9, 2006, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
There is still the "residence swap" option (i.e., move the AAdvantage account residence overseas prior to 1MM qualification) to get the 4 VIPs. [That hasn't ended yet.]
Which is still fraudulent behaviour IMO and I still hope people who attempt this are penalised by AA.
Mar 9, 2006, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by TravelGuy1965
I think your intuition that it will eventually change to BIS has us all a little nervious each year.
Thing is, it was/is more than an intuition-- it was told to me by a person that has proven to be reliable again and again, on issues that effect us all. I have no idea where/why this EP agent got this from-- or if they were just imposing their wishes over reality-- but until I hear something I'm happy to assume they were-- at most-- just parroting the same rumor, which, as you point out, has been out there for 2 years.
Mar 9, 2006, 9:20 am
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Deleted in deference to JohnNYC
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Mar 9, 2006, 9:32 am
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Thanks, bmegac-- it's for the best.
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Mar 9, 2006, 9:42 am
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loose lips lose vips... 
Mar 9, 2006, 10:10 am
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I thought it was "delete it quicker, or you just get sticker"
Cheers.
Cheers.