os reducing/stopping service to australia ???
Jul 19, 2006, 7:42 am
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os reducing/stopping service to australia ???
austrian newspaper "der standard" reports that os intends to cancel/reduce its service to australia. further details will be announced next tuesday.
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Jul 19, 2006, 3:50 pm
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The Kangaroo route seems to be suffering a lot lately. First BA cancelled the MEL flights and are now reducing the SYD service from a 747 to a 777 and now OS...
Looks like the gulf based airlines (Emirates, Gulf, Qatar) are really cutting into the customer base of the European airlines now. I have to admit, I will be trying Qatar airways for the first time next week on a FRA-DOH-HKG flight. Unbeatable J price of EUR 2.190. I am curious of what I will be getting for this? Bonus miles will go to M&M (and as I do not need any status miles it is ok)
Looks like the gulf based airlines (Emirates, Gulf, Qatar) are really cutting into the customer base of the European airlines now. I have to admit, I will be trying Qatar airways for the first time next week on a FRA-DOH-HKG flight. Unbeatable J price of EUR 2.190. I am curious of what I will be getting for this? Bonus miles will go to M&M (and as I do not need any status miles it is ok)
Jul 19, 2006, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambuster
Looks like the gulf based airlines (Emirates, Gulf, Qatar) are really cutting into the customer base of the European airlines now.
The innate advantage of having a hub right in the middle of the Kangaroo route is something that cannot be underestimated.
Jul 19, 2006, 4:53 pm
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Didn't someone fbuy some cheap D fares to OZ recently?I guess it was in the thread about how "cheap" would it be to become HON.
Jul 19, 2006, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by MACH81
Didn't someone fbuy some cheap D fares to OZ recently?I guess it was in the thread about how "cheap" would it be to become HON.
Jul 19, 2006, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
Guess my birthday party idea for SYD is in limbo now.
Jul 19, 2006, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Nah. Make the booking while it the service is still around and then get bumped to NZ or SQ
Jul 19, 2006, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
That's the problem. I don't want to ticket until I'm sure it will happen, who's coming etc. Not to mention that I'll have to fly in guests, too, and that was supposed to happen on OS, as well.
Jul 19, 2006, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
As long as the ticket has some flexibility - just book it with dummy dates and move them to firm dates once you have these. Even if there is a change fee you could still be saving euros over an SQ fare.
Jul 20, 2006, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Just when they've finally upgraded the seats
Do you think they are really going to cancel before March? I would think that the route would at least be profitable in the Northern winter.
I have flights going out to Oz middle of October and coming back middle of November, hope it will last at least until then! I was looking forward to the new business seats...
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Jul 20, 2006, 12:41 pm
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Considering that the yield beyond KUL and SIN was desastrous, I think it is much smarter to fly these birds to cities where the bird will be back in VIE the next day to operate another long range flight.
If you fly to Oz only 2-4 times a week you will lose the few C pax left who will migrate to airlines flying daily or even double daily. Although the TATL market is also not what it used to be yield wise, OS is experiencing healthy loads and unexpected traffic streams from Eastern Europe to the US, so it would not surprise me, if they add another US flight....ORD would be a logical fit.
OS would probably prefer India or China, but I do not know if the current bil. agreements allow them to increase their services.
One should also not forget that Malaysia pulled out of VIE, so KUL should be doable...and if I turn the wheel of speculation once more, TPE has to be mentioned as well...
If you fly to Oz only 2-4 times a week you will lose the few C pax left who will migrate to airlines flying daily or even double daily. Although the TATL market is also not what it used to be yield wise, OS is experiencing healthy loads and unexpected traffic streams from Eastern Europe to the US, so it would not surprise me, if they add another US flight....ORD would be a logical fit.
OS would probably prefer India or China, but I do not know if the current bil. agreements allow them to increase their services.
One should also not forget that Malaysia pulled out of VIE, so KUL should be doable...and if I turn the wheel of speculation once more, TPE has to be mentioned as well...
Jul 21, 2006, 2:20 pm
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Well the actual price for a redticket ist 1168.- in NOV (v)
What happens if they cancel the route till then? Change to Star Alliance members or cancel the complete reservation an refund to the credit card?
What happens if they cancel the route till then? Change to Star Alliance members or cancel the complete reservation an refund to the credit card?