HSaxa

Anyone with experience in F class want to take a stab at comparing / ranking F class across *A airlines. I'm most interested in finding out the heirarchy between *A across the Atlantic (LH, UA, AC, US, TAP, SK, LX, etc).

Perhaps one of our F class gurus can start us off. Thanks

paffendorf

Definitely one winner: SQ.... even if they have only 1 daily flight over that ocean...

sentom

not so definitely i think, LH is unbeatable on the ground in FRA and their service in the air is really really good... if find SQ's FA's a little too robotic even though they always deliver a excelent service... whatever you do just stay away from UA

Kiwi Flyer

Not all *A airlines have first class - see *A first class routes thread.

All the *A airlines that fly trans-atlantic (not ranked, and not excluding those that have no F).
AC
BD
LH
LO
LX
NZ
OS
SK
SQ
TP
UA
US

mahasamatman

I was shocked to see AC at the top of your list until I realized you just listed all the airlines alphabetically. I guess the OP didn't really specify the criteria for ranking...

Kiwi Flyer

Sorry for the confusion. I was just listing *A airlines since the OP didn't have a complete list. My ranking would be very different

henry999

Maybe a bit more pertinent to the OP's query would be to exclude those that have no F, which shortens the list considerably.
LH
LX
SQ
UA

cheers,

Henry

flysurfer

Only LH, LX, UA and SQ offer F over the Atlantic.

UA is quite inferior, and SQ only has one single short flight in a 744 between FRA-JFK.

So other than to JFK or the East Coast, the realistic choice is beween LH and LX. LX has reportedly the more comfortable seat to sleep in, but they don't provide pajamas or caviar service. LX ground service in ZRH is marginal compared to LH in FRA, and LX has been reported to hassle pax with heavy carry-ons, even F pax with *G status. However, it's hard to tell if these were isolated incidents.

WindFlyer

Ranking-wise, I'd put UA dead last; and I have not yet flown LX F.

Between SQ and LH: IME, the onboard product on SQ is a fair amount better on the 'hard' side (seat, IFE) and marginally better or equal on the 'soft' side (catering, beverage, service). Ground services (particularly in FRA) are definitely better on LH.

Another point is that SQ only serves one route (JFK-FRA), unlike the other carriers that serve more U.S. markets.

Unterwegs

I would rank them in the following order (for me the first priority is the ability to sleep and relax, second is ground handling/boarding and third is service and food):
1. SQ on 747 - F is in the nose of the 747, less people walking by. Good food, fairly good privacy when travelling alone. Comfortable for sleeping. Quiet.
2. LH on Airbus: singe seats are great when travelling alone, despite missing privacy screens. F Terminal in FRA
3. LH on 747: seats are only good when travelling with somebody. F Terminal is great.
4. LX: good food and service, good seats.
and very distant
5. UA: small seats, mediocre food, bad service
6. SQ on 777: F is a joke

Asking for all airlines where i have experienced F the ranking would be:
1. ANA new seats on 747: In the nose, only 10 seats, lots of space, quiet, great service
2. SQ on 747
3. LH on Airbus
4. TG with new F. Great seats, good service.
5. LH on 747
6. LX
7. UA
8. Asiana
9. SQ on 777

HSaxa

Great information - thanks all!

#10

Intersting thread. I have an open RTW F ticket traveling west from sfo finishing at cph. My initial impression was to travel on sq.

My history has been one of 1p, but I believe that I can reach 1k this year but the ua eqm's might be required to do so.

With that background, I currently have booked sfo-sin F and sin-cph C (no F) to conclude my rtw.

Any thoughts? Thanks to the tremendous FT community for their inputs.

#10

[QUOTE=#10]I currently have booked sfo-sin F and sin-cph C (no F) to conclude my rtw.


On SQ.

Guy Betsy

Why don't you take SIN-BKK on SQ in F, and BKK-ZRH on TG in F on their new A340-600 aircraft, and then connecting to SK or LX shorthaul to CPH in C?

Much better usage than to 'waste' a long haul sector in C when there are other sectors in F... ie SIN-FRA/CDG/LHR/ZRH, or TG or LX or LH.

henry999

What about SIN-FRA on SQ in F?

cheers,

Henry