Comments: Don't Count OMNI Posts In Member Post Counts (Motion Failed)
#1
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Comments: Don't Count OMNI Posts In Member Post Counts (Motion Failed)
Moved by Dovster and seconded by Cholula:
1. Posts in the OMNI forum will not count toward any member's post tally and this shall be made retroactive to the beginning of Omni.
2. Any person Omni-enabled when and if this vote is passed will be allowed to continue to post on Omni even if this motion reduces his post count to below the 180-post minimum.
This poll will close on Apr 19, 07 at 5:01 pm
1. Posts in the OMNI forum will not count toward any member's post tally and this shall be made retroactive to the beginning of Omni.
2. Any person Omni-enabled when and if this vote is passed will be allowed to continue to post on Omni even if this motion reduces his post count to below the 180-post minimum.
This poll will close on Apr 19, 07 at 5:01 pm
#2
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Those proposals seem reasonable to me, with the caveat that if there were long-term members who would be adversely impacted by those changes on other sections of the site where they have periodically participated in the past (such as Coupon Connection), that consideration be given to keeping them eligible for those sections if they so request. Not so much for the person with an average of 1000 OMNI and 10 Coupon Connection posts per year for the last 2 years, but for the hypothetical person with 10 OMNI, 20 travel, and 5 Coupon Connection posts per annum of the last 5 years. And I realize that OMNI may not count for Coupon Connection eligibility, so that I am using it only as an example for any areas of the site which may be restricted based in part on post counts.
I would also be in favor of the proposals if the second one grandfathered in people only for a limited period, say 1 year.
I would also be in favor of the proposals if the second one grandfathered in people only for a limited period, say 1 year.
#3
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I don't care if they count or not, but retroactive is a bit dumb IMO.
Set the rules going forward, going backward, why?
Set the rules going forward, going backward, why?
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Why do you believe retroactive is a bit dumb? If they count, they count past & present - if they don't count, they don't count past & present.
Why not have them retroactively removed?
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I saw a post this week that someone got 10,000 posts by playing an OMNI game. I'm fine with taking away posts from someone whose primary forum is playing games in OMNI, and not one that deals with points and miles. I don't think we should have FT Evangelists who get the majority of their posts playing games in OMNI (and short of not counting those posts, don't know how else you would deal with that).
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Do we actually have posters that have OMNI access that don't have 180 other posts somewhere else on FT (even before the 180 post access was enacted a few years back)?
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I really don't know how many Omni posts I have but I would not be in the least surprised to see that over half my post count disappears if this passes. I will not be bothered by that in the least.
TRRed, it is my understanding that if this passes it will not remove eligibility for any person who is currently allowed to post on any forum. If I am wrong about that, I will immediately introduce a new motion restoring their eligibility.
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I think extraordinarily clever posts on OMNI should count, however.
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I'm all for having Omni posts not count at all. Not today, not yesterday. This is just an off the cuff assessment, but I find that some of the Evangelists who have only a year or two of time in on FT, continuously put up filler posts. I'm all for quality over quantity.
While I do post some inane Omni posts myself, I wouldn't mind in the least to having these taken out of my post count. This is, after all, FlyerTalk, and not OmniTalk.
While I do post some inane Omni posts myself, I wouldn't mind in the least to having these taken out of my post count. This is, after all, FlyerTalk, and not OmniTalk.
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Some yes, but actually a surprisingly low number. Of those 652, nearly 600 have posted within the past two years and most of those 600 have posted since January 07.
But the number is not really the point. Many FTers get great pleasure from posting in Omni. I don't want to take that away from even one of them simply because we decided not to count Omni posts.
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I can't help but wonder why this is coming up now? Before the posts in OMNI were counted partly to help FT in its IBB standings, from that one can deduce that now FT has been sold, standings matter not so why not start stripping away stuff.
If you were to have said 2 years ago, or 5 years ago OMNI posts don't count, big deal... them were the rules. If you say today they don't count going forward, big deal... them are the rules. To now say we are changing things back to the beginning of time, that makes no sense.
Either way I will contribute, or not, based on what is needed in any forum I check.
Oh yeah, I want to comment that I agree that it is a misleading moniker to have someone an FT Evangelist who has been on 1 year and has the overwhelming majority of their posts in OMNI. They aren't FT at all, they are OMNI. How many people does this actually apply to?
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I saw a post this week that someone got 10,000 posts by playing an OMNI game. I'm fine with taking away posts from someone whose primary forum is playing games in OMNI, and not one that deals with points and miles. I don't think we should have FT Evangelists who get the majority of their posts playing games in OMNI (and short of not counting those posts, don't know how else you would deal with that).