EU bans all indonesian airlines, PIA ban slightly relaxed
Jun 28, 2007, 7:42 am
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EU bans all indonesian airlines, PIA ban slightly relaxed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6248490.stm
So PIA is going to fly their horrible old AB3 besides 744s on Pakistan - Europe runs?
EU bans all Indonesian airlines
All 51 Indonesian airlines will be banned from the EU
All Indonesian airlines including national carrier Garuda are to be banned from the European Union.
An updated blacklist of unsafe airlines also includes operators from Bulgaria, Moldova, Angola and Ukraine.
Indonesian carriers do not currently fly to Europe, but the ban serves as a warning to consumers not to use these airlines elsewhere in the world.
"European citizens should avoid flying with these carriers," an EU official said. "They are really unsafe."
The last version of the blacklist, published in March, featured 91 airlines, 74 of them from Africa, and most of the rest from Kyrgyzstan.
The new list includes all 51 carriers from Indonesia, eight from Moldova, six from Bulgaria, Angolan carrier TAAG Angola Airlines and Volare Aviation from Ukraine. It will be formally approved on 4 July and published the next day.
Russian restrictions
The EU also notes that Russia is currently blocking all flights to the EU by four passenger airlines and has placed restrictions on six other companies.
We hope that the European Union can also give us the opportunity to improve
Indonesian ambassador to the EU, Nadjib Riphat Kesoema
Indonesia airlines 'safe to fly'
An existing ban on Pakistan International Airlines will also be relaxed to allow specific Boeing 747 and Airbus 310 aircraft to fly to Europe, in addition to its Boeing 777 fleet, which is already regarded as safe.
The new list, decided upon following advice from an EU air safety committee, is expected to be formalised within a week.
Garuda flew to Rome and Amsterdam until 2005, and is planning to resume services to Amsterdam in 2008.
Indonesia's ambassador to the EU, Nadjib Riphat Kesoema, said Indonesian airlines were safe and he hoped the EU would review its decision at a meeting of air safety experts in October.
Series of accidents
"It is our commitment and our determination to have safety in our civil aviation," he told the Reuters news agency.
"We hope that the European Union can also give us the opportunity to improve."
Indonesian airlines have suffered a series of accidents this year.
On Monday, a government safety review promoted Garuda to the country's top safety category, the only airline to achieve that level.
Adam Air was boosted to the second grade, having previously been ranked at the third level.
On New Year's Day an Adam Air jet fell into the sea, killing all 102 people on board.
Some weeks later, another plane broke in half as it landed.
And in March, a Garuda Boeing 737 veered off a runway and burst into flames, leaving 21 dead.
So PIA is going to fly their horrible old AB3 besides 744s on Pakistan - Europe runs?
EU bans all Indonesian airlines
All 51 Indonesian airlines will be banned from the EU
All Indonesian airlines including national carrier Garuda are to be banned from the European Union.
An updated blacklist of unsafe airlines also includes operators from Bulgaria, Moldova, Angola and Ukraine.
Indonesian carriers do not currently fly to Europe, but the ban serves as a warning to consumers not to use these airlines elsewhere in the world.
"European citizens should avoid flying with these carriers," an EU official said. "They are really unsafe."
The last version of the blacklist, published in March, featured 91 airlines, 74 of them from Africa, and most of the rest from Kyrgyzstan.
The new list includes all 51 carriers from Indonesia, eight from Moldova, six from Bulgaria, Angolan carrier TAAG Angola Airlines and Volare Aviation from Ukraine. It will be formally approved on 4 July and published the next day.
Russian restrictions
The EU also notes that Russia is currently blocking all flights to the EU by four passenger airlines and has placed restrictions on six other companies.
We hope that the European Union can also give us the opportunity to improve
Indonesian ambassador to the EU, Nadjib Riphat Kesoema
Indonesia airlines 'safe to fly'
An existing ban on Pakistan International Airlines will also be relaxed to allow specific Boeing 747 and Airbus 310 aircraft to fly to Europe, in addition to its Boeing 777 fleet, which is already regarded as safe.
The new list, decided upon following advice from an EU air safety committee, is expected to be formalised within a week.
Garuda flew to Rome and Amsterdam until 2005, and is planning to resume services to Amsterdam in 2008.
Indonesia's ambassador to the EU, Nadjib Riphat Kesoema, said Indonesian airlines were safe and he hoped the EU would review its decision at a meeting of air safety experts in October.
Series of accidents
"It is our commitment and our determination to have safety in our civil aviation," he told the Reuters news agency.
"We hope that the European Union can also give us the opportunity to improve."
Indonesian airlines have suffered a series of accidents this year.
On Monday, a government safety review promoted Garuda to the country's top safety category, the only airline to achieve that level.
Adam Air was boosted to the second grade, having previously been ranked at the third level.
On New Year's Day an Adam Air jet fell into the sea, killing all 102 people on board.
Some weeks later, another plane broke in half as it landed.
And in March, a Garuda Boeing 737 veered off a runway and burst into flames, leaving 21 dead.
Jul 2, 2007, 6:58 am
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Jul 15, 2007, 9:09 am
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Most people don't realize Indonesia has 18,000 islands spread out over 2,500 mi -- how else are you going to get around?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...s_of_Indonesia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...s_of_Indonesia
Jul 17, 2007, 3:53 am
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Looks like Saudi Arabia is also considering banning Indonesian flights, but isn't following the EU straight away because of the number of muslims in Indonesia that go for Hajj, etc.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6902092.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6902092.stm
Jul 17, 2007, 12:01 pm
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That is, if you have a preference for capsizing and sinking vs missing a runway every once in a while.Come to think of it, Indonesia's aviation safety record is actually pretty good...... compared to their maritime safety record.
