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Old Jul 11, 2007, 1:56 pm
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US certifies Virgin America Airlines for service...starts SFO transcon in August

This worked so well for America West a few summers ago...let the fare wars begin.

US certifies Virgin America Airlines for service
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:36:54 PM (GMT-04:00)
WASHINGTON, July 11 - U.S. aviation authorities on Wednesday granted Virgin America Airlines, the low-cost carrier with marketing ties to British entrepreneur Richard Branson, the operating permits necessary to begin service, the company said.

The carrier plans to start flying in August from its San Francisco base. Virgin America will operate a fleet of new Airbus A319s and A320s and plans to serve up to 10 cities within a year of starting operations.

Virgin America won regulatory approval of its business plan in May after agreeing to restructure its financing and agreeing to change its executive leadership to satisfy a U.S. law that limits overseas influence in domestic airlines.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:11 pm
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If you have already seen it, check out their first class product; it's quite classy.

It almost looks like they used the same seat CO uses (but with white leather) and they have a foot rest, IFE (nose to tail) and as much pitch as BF (55").
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:15 pm
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HP was not competing with a premium product that easily shredded the F cabins of its competitors.

Am not including UA P.S. in this equation...
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:17 pm
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Hmmm... will HOUSTON be one of their destinations, I wonder?
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by ElkeNorEast
Hmmm... will HOUSTON be one of their destinations, I wonder?
They're rumored to serve LAS, LAX, NYC and IAD.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
If you have already seen it, check out their first class product; it's quite classy.

It almost looks like they used the same seat CO uses (but with white leather) and they have a foot rest, IFE (nose to tail) and as much pitch as BF (55").
Nice. Seems like they're aiming at UA's p.s. and AA's 762 trans-con.
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Nice. Seems like they're aiming at UA's p.s. and AA's 762 trans-con.
P.S. is angled-flat in F, correct?
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter
P.S. is angled-flat in F, correct?
p.s. is horizontal flat-bed in F, cradle seat in C. I mean Virgin America is aiming at the C product on p.s., not F.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:27 pm
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I just get misty eyed at the days of the ATA transcons...and the friendly $200 fares from CO to take care of that little 'problem.' Those were the days: $200 fare, and...anyone remember this...Silvers getting regular upgrades on trranscons because First Class fares were still well into the four figures.
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Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter
HP was not competing with a premium product that easily shredded the F cabins of its competitors.

Am not including UA P.S. in this equation...
Even the coach cabin in VX looks awesome compared to CO. VX definitely will be getting some of my WAS-SFO business.
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I will keep my hopes modest. If VX grows and puts pressure on the premium offerings of competitors, perhaps CO will refresh domestic F a bit. Adding something as simple as footrests (not necessarily legrests) would make a huge difference. The CO F seat is Okay, but it's not the softest or most ergonomically designed offering out there. The little lumbar support lever is a joke, and does not provide adequate comfort (at least to me) on longer flights.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by cerealmarketer
This worked so well for America West a few summers ago...let the fare wars begin.

US certifies Virgin America Airlines for service
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:36:54 PM (GMT-04:00)
WASHINGTON, July 11 - U.S. aviation authorities on Wednesday granted Virgin America Airlines, the low-cost carrier with marketing ties to British entrepreneur Richard Branson, the operating permits necessary to begin service, the company said.

The carrier plans to start flying in August from its San Francisco base. Virgin America will operate a fleet of new Airbus A319s and A320s and plans to serve up to 10 cities within a year of starting operations.

Virgin America won regulatory approval of its business plan in May after agreeing to restructure its financing and agreeing to change its executive leadership to satisfy a U.S. law that limits overseas influence in domestic airlines.
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THANK GOD! Virgin America will finally make CO's First Class seem inferior. After all of CO's dirty tricks to prevent Virgin America from flying failed... quite funny.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first
THANK GOD! Virgin America will finally make CO's First Class seem inferior. After all of CO's dirty tricks to prevent Virgin America from flying failed... quite funny.
Yeep, just as VK pulled their stunts on CO. @:-)

Moving on, I do like their product and think they've got something solid. The only ones I would consider (assuming I was shopping on product alone) would be UA's PS F, AA's 767 or CO's 752.
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ElkeNorEast
Hmmm... will HOUSTON be one of their destinations, I wonder?
They said within 5 years.

Virgin America expects to serve as many as 10 cities within a year of operation and up to 30 cities within five years of service. Additional cities under Virgin America’s consideration include: Atlanta, Austin, Baltimore, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, Hartford, Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Nashville, Newark, New Orleans, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Providence, Portland, Ore., Raleigh-Durham, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Jose, Calif., Sarasota, Seattle, St. Louis, Tampa and West Palm Beach.
http://www.virginamerica.com/informa...php?article=34
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Old Jul 11, 2007, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by CO 1E
Even the coach cabin in VX looks awesome compared to CO. VX definitely will be getting some of my WAS-SFO business.
I have to agree with you there. The big question will be the price points, which will be revealed soon.
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