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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 8:06 am
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Photoshop Express (online photoshop) now open to anyone!

https://www.photoshop.com/express

2Gb free storage AND a pretty good photoshop online experience. Perfect for doing some minor photo work when on the road!
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:30 am
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I signed up though it never sent me the confirmation email. I even tried logging in and clicked resend and it still hasn't come.

Edit: Finally came
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 11:52 am
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Sign ups are limited to US folks right now. I guess we're doing the world's open beta testing
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 3:01 pm
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Might want to be a bit careful with the licensing terms on this:

Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.
To me it reads that if you upload a picture to the site and (I think) publicly display it, Adobe gets the right to do whatever they want for as long as they want (including make money off it). Way too broad for me.

If you look at Picasa's or flickr's TOS, both of them state that they only have that right while you keep the content public on their site.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 5:43 pm
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That's insane.

I double-checked Smugmug's TOS - fair and reasonable, as expected.

A company that depends on the photographer/artist/creative community for much of its revenue should know better.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by CPRich
That's insane.

I double-checked Smugmug's TOS - fair and reasonable, as expected.

A company that depends on the photographer/artist/creative community for much of its revenue should know better.
Agreed. Adobe's lawyers' motives are dubious at best, and their wording preposterous.

No thanks.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 12:39 am
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There is some good news. I was looking around their site trying to find a way to contact them to express my displeasure and decided to check their forums for any information about this. It looks like a lot of people are upset and Adobe has responded by saying their legal team is "making it a priority" to change the TOS to reasonable terms.

Take a look here and here.

As long as they do it quickly then maybe this will be an interesting product.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 6:27 am
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I have a dumb question, as I've never used the photo sharing sites, except dotmac web pages. With terms like Adobe gives, why wouldn't you just do your Photoshop in the private areas of the site and then repost the shots to another site where you like the terms? I realize it's not nearly as slick, but if PS has feature you really need.....
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 12:45 pm
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Two reasons for not using PS express for me:

1. I'm sure I'll mess up sometime and accidentally place a photo in public viewing, at which point, according to the TOS, Adobe gained a perpetual right to use it even if you didn't mean to make it public.

2. There's nothing I really need on there right now. This would be useful for quickly correcting some photo before posting it on the web while you're on the road and don't have a laptop with you. It certainly won't replace PS for real photographic work.

Thus, until Adobe removes this kind of language I don't want to risk my photographs (even though I doubt I'll ever sell any of them).
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 1:46 pm
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Signed up and shared a private album with students in Europe. They can see it fine.

What I do not like about it is that I cannot find a way to permit downloads by people with whom I want to share.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by dblevitan
Might want to be a bit careful with the licensing terms on this:..................
Yep, that's a deal breaker for me.
Besides, I have CS3 and it is installed on all my computers. I have access even when traveling.
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