SQ terminates RTW fare
May 12, 2008 | 6:28 pm
#2
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Singapore
Posts: 2,775
I got this off KVS but if your travel agent has told you that, then I don't know what to make of it. Just FYI:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/AUD]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/AUD]
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SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] RT May-Apr Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------- SQ SYD SYD 2283 AUD YCASTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 2621 AUD YCASTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 2711 AUD YRWSPCL SQ SYD SYD 2965 AUD 12M YRWSQVS SQ SYD SYD 3207 AUD YRWSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 3252 AUD 12M YLRWESC SQ SYD SYD 3624 AUD YCPSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 3753 AUD YRWSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 3802 AUD 12M YHRWESC SQ SYD SYD 4339 AUD YCPSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 4379 AUD YRWSTAR3 SQ SYD SYD 5550 AUD CCASTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 6474 AUD CCASTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 7338 AUD FCASTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 8371 AUD CCPSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 8421 AUD 12M CRWSQVS SQ SYD SYD 8579 AUD FCASTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 9920 AUD CRWSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 10039 AUD CCPSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 10487 AUD 12M CRWESC SQ SYD SYD 11052 AUD CRWSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 11429 AUD FCPSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 12432 AUD CRWSTAR3 SQ SYD SYD 13713 AUD FCPSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 13971 AUD FRWSTAR1 SQ SYD SYD 15004 AUD FRWSTAR2 SQ SYD SYD 16037 AUD FRWSTAR3
May 13, 2008 | 1:20 am
#5
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia (from time to time)
Programs: QF-LTS & P, SQ-TPPS, IC-RA, HH-D, *wood G, Others
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My TA told me this morning that SQ are now pricing every segment, resulting in higher fares. e.g. SYD-PEK is now SYD-SIN, SIN-PEK and return. Even though that was always the routing, the fare was based on a SYD-PEK and lower. My TA describes the current SQ attitude as "bloody minded".
BTW, my TA is good, have been with her for 30+ years, mostly does corporate work. SQ recently refused to renew/renegotiate some great corporate rates we had as well.
I have had some great SQ RTW deals in F, in the past, cheaper than Kangaroo route or across the Pacific. May have to book * and use SQ flights in future.
BTW, my TA is good, have been with her for 30+ years, mostly does corporate work. SQ recently refused to renew/renegotiate some great corporate rates we had as well.
I have had some great SQ RTW deals in F, in the past, cheaper than Kangaroo route or across the Pacific. May have to book * and use SQ flights in future.
May 13, 2008 | 2:14 am
#6
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,641
I'm still seeing (F/C/Y)EZSQ RTW fares ex-LHR... but not any of the Aus/NZ cities.
Maybe they have terminated the all-SQ RTWs ex-Aus/NZ because you had the special concession meaning you could fly Aus/NZ-SIN and back as well as the full RTW segments, meaning you got a lot more out of the RTW than everyone else?
Maybe they have terminated the all-SQ RTWs ex-Aus/NZ because you had the special concession meaning you could fly Aus/NZ-SIN and back as well as the full RTW segments, meaning you got a lot more out of the RTW than everyone else?
May 13, 2008 | 2:23 am
#7
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My TA told me this morning that SQ are now pricing every segment, resulting in higher fares. e.g. SYD-PEK is now SYD-SIN, SIN-PEK and return. Even though that was always the routing, the fare was based on a SYD-PEK and lower. My TA describes the current SQ attitude as "bloody minded".
BTW, my TA is good, have been with her for 30+ years, mostly does corporate work. SQ recently refused to renew/renegotiate some great corporate rates we had as well.
I have had some great SQ RTW deals in F, in the past, cheaper than Kangaroo route or across the Pacific. May have to book * and use SQ flights in future.
BTW, my TA is good, have been with her for 30+ years, mostly does corporate work. SQ recently refused to renew/renegotiate some great corporate rates we had as well.
I have had some great SQ RTW deals in F, in the past, cheaper than Kangaroo route or across the Pacific. May have to book * and use SQ flights in future.
Gone are the days of el cheapo fares on SQ I guess. From what I hear, SQ is charging a surcharge in economy for the A380 flights ex-SIN , where, unfortunately, most people WILL in Singapore will pay just because it's "the 380 on SIA".
From that attitude, to cutbacks in quality in their premium classes, to cutbacks of certain nett fares, SQ wants to be a premium airline with full published fares only! I wonder how long before it will realise that that might not work when the numbers start to crunch.
May 13, 2008 | 3:08 am
#8
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
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Similarly, I'm already dreading the day when there are no morew 747's to Europe, Oz, US any longer and I can kiss goodbye to any C or F reward seats on SQ at saver levels.
May 13, 2008 | 3:46 am
#9
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, Bonvoy LTG
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Aaah this explains why mysteriously the SQ RTW fare disappeared from bestflights.com.au round the world fares pages over the weekend. Not surprising really ex-Oz given that return flights to SIN in business are $4.5K or thereabouts. If they're filling the planes at that they're practically giving away the rest of the RTW sectors.
May 13, 2008 | 4:49 pm
#11
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Slightly OT
On SQ 15, all pax (including myself) in F terminated at ICN. Seems like that a new set of pax would then join the flight in ICN to continue to SIN.
On SQ 16, I started my trip in SIN and most of the fellow pax on my flight whom I saw in the F side of the SKL were actually in J (and some even Y, while I noticed while boarding the flight - and some had "Solitaire" baggage tags). Flight from SIN-ICN was 7/8. From ICN-SFO, I was the only passenger (everybody else got off at ICN). Note: SIN-SFO is about SGD 8000 one-way in F.
This makes me wonder why SQ even bothers putting at 77W on this route. Just to serve the SIN-ICN-SIN passengers?
Last edited by daniellam; May 13, 2008 at 4:55 pm Reason: clarity
May 13, 2008 | 7:51 pm
#12
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May 13, 2008 | 8:52 pm
#13
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Are you saying that SQ was selling C RTW from Oz for $5500 and F RTW for $7338? How come I didn't know about this until they withdraw this offer?!? 
That sounds like a great fare to Europe in SQ C and I was always buying the LH fare for around the same price that only allows UA, TG and LH flights.
That sounds like a great fare to Europe in SQ C and I was always buying the LH fare for around the same price that only allows UA, TG and LH flights.
May 14, 2008 | 12:38 am
#14
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Melbourne
Programs: TG, QF, SQ, EK.
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I have just completed an RTW SQ only itinerary in F because the fare was attractive. I think SQ is foolish to terminate this special fare because it was the main thing that attracted me away from OneWorld. SQ are kidding themselves if they think pax like me will continue to fly with them at fares similar to OneWorld. It is not as if SQ's F cabins are full. On FRA-SIN (744 service) last week there were only 3 F pax, and on SIN-MEL (744 service) there were only 4 - and the rest of the classes were very lightly loaded as well. Be careful SQ.
May 14, 2008 | 4:27 am
#15
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, UK
Posts: 567
But surely under the terms of its membership with Star, SIA simply cannot drop out of an important promotional fare like the RTW ?
SIA can, of course, modify the price from market to market and surcharge premium class on the A380 etc (which it is already doing in some markets). But, along with the other Star members, it has to participate in RTW ... at least that's what the info on the Star Alliance website would infer.
SIA can, of course, modify the price from market to market and surcharge premium class on the A380 etc (which it is already doing in some markets). But, along with the other Star members, it has to participate in RTW ... at least that's what the info on the Star Alliance website would infer.