UA drops SFO-TPE/NGO, LAX-FRA... int'l changes
Jun 25, 2008, 9:39 pm
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UA drops SFO-TPE/NGO, LAX-FRA... int'l changes
Looks like the following are gone from availability. Just checked Sabre.
San Francisco - Taipei (eff 02SEP08, to be replaced by NRT-TPE again)
San Francisco - Nagoya (eff 25OCT08)
Los Angeles - Frankfurt (eff 25OCT08)
Los Angeles - Guatemala (eff 01SEP08)
Los Angeles - Hong Kong (eff 01SEP08, previously announced)
Denver - London (eff 25OCT08)
Other changes are:
Chicago - Tokyo, cancellation of UA883/884 from 02SEP08. UA881/882 will be 744
Chicago - Beijing from 25OCT08 777 replace 744
Washington - Rome from 25OCT08 767 replace 777 (Seems to be 777 last winter)
Washington - Beijing from 25OCT08 777 replace 744
San Francisco - Osaka from 25OCT08 744 replace 777
Los Angeles - Mexico City will be weekly service
Los Angeles - Tokyo from 01SEP08 744 replace 777
San Francisco - Taipei (eff 02SEP08, to be replaced by NRT-TPE again)
San Francisco - Nagoya (eff 25OCT08)
Los Angeles - Frankfurt (eff 25OCT08)
Los Angeles - Guatemala (eff 01SEP08)
Los Angeles - Hong Kong (eff 01SEP08, previously announced)
Denver - London (eff 25OCT08)
Other changes are:
Chicago - Tokyo, cancellation of UA883/884 from 02SEP08. UA881/882 will be 744
Chicago - Beijing from 25OCT08 777 replace 744
Washington - Rome from 25OCT08 767 replace 777 (Seems to be 777 last winter)
Washington - Beijing from 25OCT08 777 replace 744
San Francisco - Osaka from 25OCT08 744 replace 777
Los Angeles - Mexico City will be weekly service
Los Angeles - Tokyo from 01SEP08 744 replace 777
Last edited by jimyvr; Jun 26, 2008 at 8:36 am Reason: Added previously announced international cuts
Jun 25, 2008, 9:41 pm
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Jun 25, 2008, 9:44 pm
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No big surprises..
Jun 25, 2008, 10:02 pm
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Jun 25, 2008, 10:41 pm
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Are the cancellations to free up aircraft for DXB and DME? Or is this more capacity reduction?
Jun 25, 2008, 10:45 pm
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Do you mean daily? Or are they really going to a 1x weekly service? If the latter, what's the point?
In regards to SFO-TPE going SFO-NRT-TPE, is the slot from the axed ORD-NRT flight going to serve NRT-TPE? If so, how do they accommodate the earlier arrival of TPE-NRT than ORD-NRT? Are they going to shuffle around the timing of other NRT flights?
I believe SFO-NGO was supported by a corporate contract, so I'm guessing that's a goner now.
SFO-KIX is being upgauged to add lift to the Kansai region, but don't forget TG is re-entering the KIX-LAX market. This will likely capture some of the previous NGO-SFO and KIX-SFO traffic, so hopefully these two flights can coexist.
Surprised SFO-ICN wasn't mentioned, since this route has been on-again, off-again even in the good times. With OZ serving LAX/SFO/SEA 24x weekly, and SQ's superior offering on SFO-ICN, UA's own nonstop and NRT flight is a lot of lift into a market.
One last thought - if all of these are cut, do you think LAX-LHR might finally get axed too? Maybe, oh just maybe, UA will throw its code on NZ 1/2 instead? What about SFO-GUM or SFO-PPT as a potential use of an aircraft in the coming months?
In regards to SFO-TPE going SFO-NRT-TPE, is the slot from the axed ORD-NRT flight going to serve NRT-TPE? If so, how do they accommodate the earlier arrival of TPE-NRT than ORD-NRT? Are they going to shuffle around the timing of other NRT flights?
I believe SFO-NGO was supported by a corporate contract, so I'm guessing that's a goner now.
SFO-KIX is being upgauged to add lift to the Kansai region, but don't forget TG is re-entering the KIX-LAX market. This will likely capture some of the previous NGO-SFO and KIX-SFO traffic, so hopefully these two flights can coexist.
Surprised SFO-ICN wasn't mentioned, since this route has been on-again, off-again even in the good times. With OZ serving LAX/SFO/SEA 24x weekly, and SQ's superior offering on SFO-ICN, UA's own nonstop and NRT flight is a lot of lift into a market.
One last thought - if all of these are cut, do you think LAX-LHR might finally get axed too? Maybe, oh just maybe, UA will throw its code on NZ 1/2 instead? What about SFO-GUM or SFO-PPT as a potential use of an aircraft in the coming months?
Last edited by cstead; Jun 25, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Jun 25, 2008, 10:59 pm
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Interesting. After the 'Capital-to-Capital Connection' campaign that unexpectedly led to UA winning the IAD-PEK route authority, the DOT mentioned in their award that UA's 744 on the route was a factor in their decision since it would result in more capacity than the original favorite, CO's EWR-PEK submission on a 777.
Jun 25, 2008, 11:02 pm
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Interesting. After the 'Capital-to-Capital Connection' campaign that unexpectedly led to UA winning the IAD-PEK route authority, the DOT mentioned in their award that UA's 744 on the route was a factor in their decision since it would result in more capacity than the original favorite, CO's EWR-PEK submission on a 777.
Jun 25, 2008, 11:10 pm
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