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Old Aug 29, 2008, 11:25 am
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Exclamation Alitalia files for bankruptcy

It's a fact now ...

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Italy's national airline Alitalia says it has filed for bankruptcy protection, taking the first step in reshaping what has been a failing company.

Alitalia said in a statement Friday that its board had asked the government to appoint an administrator and had declared insolvency to a Rome court.
Now we wait to see what happens next ...
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 11:42 am
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The interesting point is that Berlusconi changed yesterday the law governing bankruptcy to allow Alitalia to be "saved" :

- the profitable activities of Alitalia (and planes, landing rights etc.) will be transferred to a newly created company

- what remains (and the debt) will be kept by the empty shell of Alitalia
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 12:04 pm
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Notably cuts are much deeper than those proposed in the AF+KL plan that was rejected by the unions and Berlusconi. Except that now MXP will be the hub rather than FCO, quite by coincidence I'm sure!
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by tomh009
Now we wait to see what happens next ...
So, I guess we just keep listening about potential flight schedule changes, right?
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 12:50 pm
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I have a flight on the 23rd (of September) ... but some of the news reports indicate that it'll take them four weeks to sort things out with the investors and the unions. I suspect that in the meantime it'll be reasonably close to business as usual.
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Awesome!!
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 1:07 pm
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Nothing of strange, everybody knew that there would have been the "commissariamento" of AZ.

The real problem will be next Monday, the meeting with the unions.

A small OT: the commissioner of AZ, Augusto Fantozzi, has the same surname of an Italian character of comics film:

http://www.wlaciccia.it/famosi/images/fantozzi0.jpg

and his beautiful daughter:

http://www.federicomancosu.com/forfu...o_Fernando.jpg
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 1:52 pm
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Is this bankruptcy the planned one where the attractive assets are put into a new entity to be purchased/rescued by the investors Berlusconi has been talking about with the taxpayers being stuck with the junk no one wants?
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 2:04 pm
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Exactly.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 4:21 pm
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Badco and newco. And in the newco there will be also place for a minority stake for foreign investitors... like AF-KL. Just place the money and let us manage it. "We know how it takes".
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by janmnastami
Nothing of strange, everybody knew that there would have been the "commissariamento" of AZ.

The real problem will be next Monday, the meeting with the unions.

A small OT: the commissioner of AZ, Augusto Fantozzi, has the same surname of an Italian character of comics film:

http://www.wlaciccia.it/famosi/images/fantozzi0.jpg

and his beautiful daughter:

http://www.federicomancosu.com/forfu...o_Fernando.jpg
I laughed my head off when I saw the last name of the commissioner. If he has anything to do with the movie character, we're in for a blast
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 7:24 pm
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The mind boggles at what Italian taxpayers are willing to put up with.

I suspect the unions will scuttle this thing and if not, hopefully the EU will.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 8:46 pm
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Interline acceptance of AZ documents

Does anyone know whether other carriers are still accepting AZ documents? IOW, if a YY flight is ticketed on AZ paper, are passengers still being transported?
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Old Aug 30, 2008, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by Volvic
Badco and newco. And in the newco there will be also place for a minority stake for foreign investitors... like AF-KL. Just place the money and let us manage it. "We know how it takes".
AF has a 2% stake in the "badco".
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Old Aug 31, 2008, 6:13 am
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was about time for Alitalia to go down, but I am sure the folks in Rome will invent some more creative rules to 'save' their airline ... now where is the thread where we predicted when they would go bye-bye
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