Passenger Dies in Bathroom - No Medics
Feb 19, 2011, 5:34 pm
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Passenger Dies in Bathroom - No Medics
Airports are becoming a very dangerous place to be. This was a 39 year woman who couldn't breath -- and the airport couldn't cough up medics to help her. We are spending a fortune on TSOs but don't expect any help in an emergency.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...cal-treatment/
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...cal-treatment/
Feb 19, 2011, 5:59 pm
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this is shocking. all that money spent on fingering Grandma Moses at the TSA checkpoint and nothing for vital needs such as passenger medical.
what would happen if there were an explosion or something major? I guess wait until the EMTs get through the patdown...
what would happen if there were an explosion or something major? I guess wait until the EMTs get through the patdown...
Feb 19, 2011, 6:05 pm
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Perhaps we should get in Blogdad Bob's face about this, not that we would get the real answer.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:23 pm
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This apparently isn't too far from the truth. I recall some dialogue a couple of years ago about this type of situation. Several screeners said that it was TSA policy that paramedic teams had to go through screening before they responded to an emergency inside the secure area.
Perhaps we should get in Blogdad Bob's face about this, not that we would get the real answer.
Perhaps we should get in Blogdad Bob's face about this, not that we would get the real answer.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:28 pm
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This has nothing to do with TSA but as usual people here have nothing better to do but drag them into it. Emergency Services are the responsibility of the airports and when airport cut back on resources guess what is first to be cut.
There have been several incidents where TSA personnel have provided emergency care and saved lives.
There have been several incidents where TSA personnel have provided emergency care and saved lives.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:29 pm
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This apparently isn't too far from the truth. I recall some dialogue a couple of years ago about this type of situation. Several screeners said that it was TSA policy that paramedic teams had to go through screening before they responded to an emergency inside the secure area.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:34 pm
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According to that memo, if someone employed as a TSA employee is performing first aid functions, they're "off the clock" and not doing so as a TSA employee.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:38 pm
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Here is a quote more than five years old from the thread I referenced above. Hopefully in the years since that was posted, communication and processes have improved.
Unfortunately this issue is a problem across the nation. The TSA Occupational Safety and Health has been pushing FSDs to coordinate better with the airport emergency workers to have a clear understanding of what is supposed to happen in these situations. All too often all of the upper management puts together a plan but fails to pass it on down to the workers. Communication sucks on both sides. We had some workers complain because they did not know the phone number to the airport EMTs. When I informed them that it was "911" they were a little red faced. You wouldn't believe how many screeners want to use the AEDs hanging on tha wall. 
Feb 19, 2011, 6:44 pm
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No, they haven't.
According to that memo, if someone employed as a TSA employee is performing first aid functions, they're "off the clock" and not doing so as a TSA employee.
According to that memo, if someone employed as a TSA employee is performing first aid functions, they're "off the clock" and not doing so as a TSA employee.
State laws differ on this but if the TSA trains the TSOs on first aid then they are not covered by the Good Samaritan law.
Feb 19, 2011, 6:46 pm
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Feb 19, 2011, 6:47 pm
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BS. The money siphoned off on TSA's nonsense means less money available for other airport needs and a shift of focus from those needs to screening games and the enriching of interests that make security equipment. TSA should be dragged into this as they are at the heart of this mis-allocation of funds and effort.
Feb 19, 2011, 7:31 pm
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No, they haven't.
According to that memo, if someone employed as a TSA employee is performing first aid functions, they're "off the clock" and not doing so as a TSA employee.
According to that memo, if someone employed as a TSA employee is performing first aid functions, they're "off the clock" and not doing so as a TSA employee.
They make me ill.
Feb 19, 2011, 7:41 pm
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Sad story overall. I'm sure this will lead to a review of safety operations at the airport and lots of finger pointing. The 4 responding units that returned to base with out making contact need reprimanded and re-trained on responding to calls 101.
Agree, no way shape or form does this reflect or have anything to do with the TSA.
Agree, no way shape or form does this reflect or have anything to do with the TSA.
Feb 19, 2011, 8:28 pm
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Not sure how it is at most airports, but at PHX, Fire Station 19 is located right on the field by T3. When a call is dispatched through Phoenix Fire, they respond with the escort of a Phx Ops personnel right to the air side, but they also have SIDA badges..maybe other cities dont?