Exact amount of AP miles and Status miles per route.
Sep 25, 2003, 9:58 am
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Exact amount of AP miles and Status miles per route.
Is there a standard amount of AP and status miles AC gives out per flihgt?
I can't seemt to find any such chart on APs site.
You all seem to know exactly what you get for every route, how do you know?
I can't seemt to find any such chart on APs site.
You all seem to know exactly what you get for every route, how do you know?
Sep 25, 2003, 10:57 am
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it's mostly experience (such as, I know that AC gives me exactly 835 miles everytime i fly discount Y from YYC-YYZ) but a nifty guide to estimating the expected mileage is at http://gc.kls2.com/
Just enter your routing in there and it calculates the flown-miles between points. Just remember that some legs earn 50% miles and some short ones earn minimums (250 or 500 miles).
Just enter your routing in there and it calculates the flown-miles between points. Just remember that some legs earn 50% miles and some short ones earn minimums (250 or 500 miles).
Sep 25, 2003, 11:02 am
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http://www.webflyer.com/travel/milemarker/
Go to webflyer.com and use the Mileage calculator to calculate the exact miles flown. Then, depending on your booking class you can add-up your mileage.
For domestic travel effective Oct 1 (thanks Empress
) :
Econo - B, H, V, Q, L (50% status miles)
Freedom Y (125% status miles)
Fun - R, I, G (50% status miles)
Latitude - M, U (100% status miles)
Tango - E, N, T (No status miles; 50% of mileage flown in AE miles)
On international flights you get 100% of mileage regardless of fare in Y.
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Go to webflyer.com and use the Mileage calculator to calculate the exact miles flown. Then, depending on your booking class you can add-up your mileage.
For domestic travel effective Oct 1 (thanks Empress
) :Econo - B, H, V, Q, L (50% status miles)
Freedom Y (125% status miles)
Fun - R, I, G (50% status miles)
Latitude - M, U (100% status miles)
Tango - E, N, T (No status miles; 50% of mileage flown in AE miles)
On international flights you get 100% of mileage regardless of fare in Y.
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Prestige
Sep 25, 2003, 11:08 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Youponder:
I can't seemt to find any such chart on APs site.</font>
I can't seemt to find any such chart on APs site.</font>
As posted earlier, the domestic chart will change on 1Oct.
Sep 25, 2003, 11:28 am
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However, airline program mileage often varies by a few miles either side of those you'll get from these calculators. Even AC and CP couldn't always agree.
Sep 25, 2003, 11:34 am
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Thanks, I didn't realize AP points are actually directly awarded according to actual miles flown.
Forgive me for this very basic question: Do you always earn the same amount of AP and status miles? I don't know much about status miles as I earn all my AP miles from credit cards.
BTW: Anyone think it's odd that AC calls it miles? Everything else here in Canada is kilometers.
Forgive me for this very basic question: Do you always earn the same amount of AP and status miles? I don't know much about status miles as I earn all my AP miles from credit cards.
BTW: Anyone think it's odd that AC calls it miles? Everything else here in Canada is kilometers.
Sep 25, 2003, 11:39 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Youponder:
BTW: Anyone think it's odd that AC calls it miles? Everything else here in Canada is kilometers. </font>
BTW: Anyone think it's odd that AC calls it miles? Everything else here in Canada is kilometers. </font>
Sep 25, 2003, 2:13 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Youponder:
Forgive me for this very basic question: Do you always earn the same amount of AP and status miles? I don't know much about status miles as I earn all my AP miles from credit cards.</font>
Forgive me for this very basic question: Do you always earn the same amount of AP and status miles? I don't know much about status miles as I earn all my AP miles from credit cards.</font>
Other than that, the number of Aeroplan base miles you earn = number of status miles you earn for that particular flight.
Definition of base miles is miles you earned from flying (defined as the distance between the 2 city pairs) including Class of service premium but excluding any promotion bonuses.
Sep 25, 2003, 6:21 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Prestige:
"Nautical" miles are used in aviation NOT km. </font>
"Nautical" miles are used in aviation NOT km. </font>
Sep 25, 2003, 6:47 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by I'llMissCP:
You can also use the PDF version of the AC tiemtable. They have milage estimates for city-pairs as part of the schedule. Even thay will not match AP awards 100%.</font>
You can also use the PDF version of the AC tiemtable. They have milage estimates for city-pairs as part of the schedule. Even thay will not match AP awards 100%.</font>
http://www.actimetable.com/AC.pdf
Sep 25, 2003, 7:19 pm
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I'll usually just search for the flight segements I'm looking for on Destina. Their information screen gives the mileage per segement if you select the details for a particular flight (or group of flights)... So far it has matched one to one what I've received on my aeroplan statement. I wish that AC would implement this on their site...
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Nov 17, 2003, 4:40 pm
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Thought I'd bump this thread back up after my weekend trip YYZ-DFW.
When booking I looked at the AC online timetable to check mileage which is shown as 1199 each way.
A check of my AE acount online this morning shows a credit of 1194.
After finding this thread I went and used the tool at www.webflyer.com as suggested above by Prestige. That site shows YYZ-DFW at 1200 miles.
I'm confused.
I don't have a problem getting cut short for a total of 10 miles on this trip, but what happens if someone comes real close to a threshold (i.e making SE/E for the year or some other benefit) and doesn't go over because of a variation in the timetable miles vs. AE miles given ?
Who has the last word ? What rule would be used to arbitrate in such a situation ?
I am curious because I found out today that I will have another trip to CDG in mid-December which should put me within 14,000 points of making SE in 2003. I'd be really disappointed if I invested time and $$$ in planning a MR (which I may do) between X-mas and Dec 31 and didn't make SE because of a miscalculation based on bad information.
[This message has been edited by NordsFan (edited Nov 17, 2003).]
When booking I looked at the AC online timetable to check mileage which is shown as 1199 each way.
A check of my AE acount online this morning shows a credit of 1194.
After finding this thread I went and used the tool at www.webflyer.com as suggested above by Prestige. That site shows YYZ-DFW at 1200 miles.
I'm confused.
I don't have a problem getting cut short for a total of 10 miles on this trip, but what happens if someone comes real close to a threshold (i.e making SE/E for the year or some other benefit) and doesn't go over because of a variation in the timetable miles vs. AE miles given ?
Who has the last word ? What rule would be used to arbitrate in such a situation ?
I am curious because I found out today that I will have another trip to CDG in mid-December which should put me within 14,000 points of making SE in 2003. I'd be really disappointed if I invested time and $$$ in planning a MR (which I may do) between X-mas and Dec 31 and didn't make SE because of a miscalculation based on bad information.
[This message has been edited by NordsFan (edited Nov 17, 2003).]