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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 12:46 pm
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What is the neighborhood around the BUF downtown Greyhound station like? I know such places have a terrible reputation in some US cities.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 2:33 pm
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I remember one time I took the train back from BUF to Oakville...4 hours...plus an hour on a city bus from the airport to the train station...through the ghetto....scary..

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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by DanJ
I've read that SW doesn't like international routes, which is why they haven't come to Canada already. Who knows how long Independence is going to still be around. I have heard JetBlue wants to come here, but it's just a matter of when they get their fleet built up, and their US services fully implemented. Hopefully they don't just run yyz-jfk with connections from there (unless of course their plan is to target the New York market from Toronto.) I don't think marketing sun flights through jfk will work too well with all the direct flights already offered from yyz.
Since most canadian airports have customs preclearance, wouldn't that mean that they would be considered domestic?
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 3:39 pm
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Looks like there's a follow up on the "flying from BUF" piece on tonight's CFTO news. Just saw a commercial which had Ken Shaw saying Foran's piece received a lot of email about the story. Mentioned some who wrote to support YYZ instead, and others asking how they too can save a Brinks load. Now, which one to start with...
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
US INS are used to people coming through to fly from BUF, but insist on looking at all the tickets, and generally insist you have a return bus ticket as well as appropriate airline tickets. In fact, Grayhound won't sell a one-way ticket to the US, as they'd have to carry you back for free if you're turned back at the border, and they insist US authorities require it. [You can turn an unused portion in for a refund back home in Canada, though.]
Slight correction - although they do ask to see tickets/itineraries, I have never once been asked for a return bus ticket. I go to BUF via this route quite often and often get a ride back - hence don't have a return ticket. Never had a problem purchasing a one-way ticket to BUF at the Toronto Coach Terminal be it on Greyhound or Coach Canada.

For the other poster asking about the safety of the bus terminal, I've never felt unsafe in the terminal even at 2am although there are some...odd people... around, not dissimilar to what you'd see downtown Toronto. The terminal is in what appears to be the business district. A cab to the airport is about $25 US, there is an express city shuttle to the airport which is a minibus, as well as the regular city bus (Genesee) which does indeed go through a Ghetto-ish area of town. There's also a private hotel-airport shuttle if the express timing doesn't work out and you want to skip the Genesee line.

If taking the train, the Buffalo Depew station is much closer to the airport than the downtown station.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
I remember one time I took the train back from BUF to Oakville...4 hours...plus an hour on a city bus from the airport to the train station...through the ghetto....scary..

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Try going to Oakland, California! My brother in law living in SFO said he'd bring me on an adventure. Believe me that was scarier than some of the rides at Disneyland!
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by canrocks
Since most canadian airports have customs preclearance, wouldn't that mean that they would be considered domestic?
I suppose if they flew from airports that have pre-clearance. How many really do though? They would need a certain minimum number of flights to make it worthwhile basing a whole crew of INS agents in a city. London, with it's 4 flights a day to Detroit certainly doesn't, not that any US LCC would give yxu a second glance. I doubt Hamilton does, and that's closer to the kind of airport Southwest would probably try.

Granted though, that the cities SW would probably look at have airports with US pre-clearance. Canada doesn't have the kind of secondary airports in or near a major market like the US. I recall before Westjet went east that they were looking at flying into CFB Shearwater instead of Halifax International. Too bad the weather and the government didn't co-operate on that one.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by DanJ
I suppose if they flew from airports that have pre-clearance. How many really do though? They would need a certain minimum number of flights to make it worthwhile basing a whole crew of INS agents in a city. London, with it's 4 flights a day to Detroit certainly doesn't, not that any US LCC would give yxu a second glance. I doubt Hamilton does, and that's closer to the kind of airport Southwest would probably try.

Granted though, that the cities SW would probably look at have airports with US pre-clearance. Canada doesn't have the kind of secondary airports in or near a major market like the US. I recall before Westjet went east that they were looking at flying into CFB Shearwater instead of Halifax International. Too bad the weather and the government didn't co-operate on that one.
Here's a question - Does anyone know why one airline has the monpoly on the Gatineau airport (YND)? Is the runway too small for a CRJ even? Because Independence could fly out of there.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 8:34 pm
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Is it a monopoly, or just a lack of interest in other airlines to fly there? How about Carp? It's called a "commuter" airport on ottawa.com
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 8:57 pm
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Well, you know, Carp is the type of airport Ryannair would fly to...
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by canrocks
Here's a question - Does anyone know why one airline has the monpoly on the Gatineau airport (YND)? Is the runway too small for a CRJ even? Because Independence could fly out of there.
www.ego-aeroport.ca

Two round trips a day between YQB and YND.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 9:05 pm
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yeah, at $229 each way LOL.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by canrocks
Here's a question - Does anyone know why one airline has the monpoly on the Gatineau airport (YND)? Is the runway too small for a CRJ even? Because Independence could fly out of there.

6000ft long. Definetly big enough for RJ or B737 / A320 even
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 9:07 pm
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Of course, I immediately pull up airanada.com and find out they are charging $197 each way LOL. I'm thinking that $191 for yxu-yyz-lax isn't looking too bad now LOL
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 9:38 pm
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Analogous to the price savings for travel to US destinations from Buffalo, as compared to YYZ - I am seriously considering (in the warmer months of the year) to drive from YOW to Syracuse, NY or Burlington VT, and take UA or esp US, from those cities. One can save at least CAN$200 per person (there are 3 of us) flying long-haul destinations within USA from those American originating cities.
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