2 of 3 YVR - LHR flights with club class
Mar 23, 2005 | 7:24 pm
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There is probably not sufficient demand for J seats on those routes but there are also probably a large enough crowd of "affluent" leisure or "cheap" business travllers who are prepared to pay a little bit more for something better than standard economy, BUT not to the extent of paying a full J or C tickets. For those "small" number of travellers who want J, unfortunately they will either have to compromise to fly S or switch to another carrier that offers a full J service. The latter may not be the most convenient routing, say in the case of YYZ/ZRH and YYZ/FCO. It will mean at least one connection at an European hub vs. direct non stop by AC, except Alitalia for the YYZ/FCO run which is not a *A airline for status miles. This is my speculation.
Mar 23, 2005 | 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Simon
Yup, it's a trick. Certainly nothing to do with having routes where they can better utilization and paid J out of the SJ-configured aircraft!
Mar 23, 2005 | 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
And what's wrong with that? AC flies fewer customers who pay for J during the peak summer months. And they fly many more times as many customers who fly the cheapest Y fare they can find. So what's wrong with adding two flights a day to accommodate those who are actually paying to travel [in the back]? Why should AC fly either empty J cabins, or J cabins which must be provisioned with full J catering and service for the 95% of those who will sit in those cabins who only paid for a cheap Y seat? If the paying loads justified it, AC would fly internationally-configured J cabins, but the loads up front don't justify this. I don't understand your complaint? The international J planes can make AC money flying many other routes this summer, and indeed they will.
If you really want business class, BA offers its sleeper beds...
And according to another thread, the second daily summer flight ex-YYC is similarly a Club configuration, as is one of the five dailies ex-YYZ.
If J was full when you flew this route, it was likely full of op upgrades and certificate upgrades. Did you pay full J?
If you really want business class, BA offers its sleeper beds...
And according to another thread, the second daily summer flight ex-YYC is similarly a Club configuration, as is one of the five dailies ex-YYZ.
If J was full when you flew this route, it was likely full of op upgrades and certificate upgrades. Did you pay full J?
Coming back from Frankfurt to YYZ later (on the same itinerary), we found that all of the business class seats were occupied on that particular flight.
Mar 24, 2005 | 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Fraud
hmmmm I go for a degree and end up with a wife.......
Maybe common sense classes were the electives I missed because of too many late nights in the Norton Pub
DF
Maybe common sense classes were the electives I missed because of too many late nights in the Norton Pub
DF
Of course you could just be alluding to the good times in that rez (and the "Tunnel of Love")
Do you happen to remember the name of the Hell's Angels bar on the main street? Across from the Provigo?
Mar 24, 2005 | 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by smcniven
Crap. I lived in Norton my first year and I don't remember any pub there. Unless you're talking about the big RA room on the first floor?
Of course you could just be alluding to the good times in that rez (and the "Tunnel of Love")
Do you happen to remember the name of the Hell's Angels bar on the main street? Across from the Provigo?
Of course you could just be alluding to the good times in that rez (and the "Tunnel of Love")
Do you happen to remember the name of the Hell's Angels bar on the main street? Across from the Provigo?
The Provigo ... I lived in a basement apartment there during my last year. (I was either underneath the store or behind it--I can't remember which.) Woke up one morning during April exams and climbed out of bed only to step into four inches of icy water throughout the apartment.
I don't even remember a bar across from the Provigo.
Must be getting old.
Mar 24, 2005 | 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by AnselmAdorne
When I was there we all drank at the "G" in Lennoxville. We were never asked for id, but I do remember walking back to campus late one night drinking from a quart ... a local police officer drove up beside us and made me pour it out.
The Provigo ... I lived in a basement apartment there during my last year. (I was either underneath the store or behind it--I can't remember which.) Woke up one morning during April exams and climbed out of bed only to step into four inches of icy water throughout the apartment.
I don't even remember a bar across from the Provigo. Must be getting old.
The Provigo ... I lived in a basement apartment there during my last year. (I was either underneath the store or behind it--I can't remember which.) Woke up one morning during April exams and climbed out of bed only to step into four inches of icy water throughout the apartment.
I don't even remember a bar across from the Provigo.
Must be getting old.
Mar 24, 2005 | 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by smcniven
Nope you nailed it, it was the G. Ahh the memories. There was a basement bar across from the Provigo by the time I graduated ('95). Can't remember the name, but it was on the side street not the main street.
There were 4 places you could drink in town. The Len Pub - about 200 yards past Beaulieu's Provigo, great for hanging with the local farmers and for Friday night fist fights. The Golden Lion, founded by the Bishop's Economics Department...yeah really! The infamous G.. which has since gained respectability I'm told and the Norton Pub, which was the former dining hall before they opened up Dewhurst on the new side.
There were two phone numbers that were indelibly etched in my brain at the time. Jerry's pizzaria and the AC toll free reserverations number. I can still remember the AC number, but Jerry's has faded into the haze. I get a chuckle when I read about the current crop faking doctors notes to ride up front. When I was at BU, I was glad to go student standby in row 21 of a DC9 to get home for Christmas....How things change.
DF
PS What was the tunnel of Love?? The hall to Pollack?
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Mar 24, 2005 | 7:12 pm
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I never faked a doctor's note. The only bars around now are the Golden Lion, the Maysen, and planet-o-pub, which is hidden right next to capitaine grec, as I'm sure all the BU grads know
Mar 24, 2005 | 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Fraud
Ah the "G" what a disgusting pit!! Beer in quarts, all the second hand smoke you could take or make and a pissoir that made the snowbanks the hygenic choice..... Such fond memories
shore9, see what you have to look forward to?
Mar 31, 2005 | 8:17 pm
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Here you go shore9: A great fare deal YVR-LHR and no need to worry about crappy domestic J seats. 
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...6/public/en_ca
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...6/public/en_ca
Apr 1, 2005 | 11:34 am
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Slightly related to the topic at hand.
Club class is now bookable online. It shows as a seperate tab at the top of the fare display screen.
Fares look somewhat reasonable. $1460 for YYZ-FCO in early June. For comparison, the discount Y class is $888.
Club class is now bookable online. It shows as a seperate tab at the top of the fare display screen.
Fares look somewhat reasonable. $1460 for YYZ-FCO in early June. For comparison, the discount Y class is $888.
Apr 1, 2005 | 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Slightly related to the topic at hand.
Club class is now bookable online. It shows as a seperate tab at the top of the fare display screen.
Fares look somewhat reasonable. $1460 for YYZ-FCO in early June. For comparison, the discount Y class is $888.
Club class is now bookable online. It shows as a seperate tab at the top of the fare display screen.
Fares look somewhat reasonable. $1460 for YYZ-FCO in early June. For comparison, the discount Y class is $888.
Apr 1, 2005 | 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by yyzgigi
That's a big improvement from selling it as J to the uninitiated. Now all we need is extra points for S class.