YVR/SYD flights cancelled for May 6/7
May 4, 2008 | 3:31 pm
#16
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So if AC033 were delayed 45 minutes under normal circumstances (Pax on board, baggage late in being loaded etc) then it would be renumbered to AC2033. I think not, I can't imagine everyone getting new boarding passes and the associated hoopla of a new flight number. Something doesn't add up.:
May 4, 2008 | 8:24 pm
#17
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The reasoning makes sense to me, and I'm looking fwd to 33 without a HNL stop in July!
May 4, 2008 | 10:50 pm
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KVS Tool cannot create "false alarms", by definition.
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] FRI 02 May 2008 - 09 May 2008 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------- AC 2033 YVR 00:40 SYD 08:40 +1 77L 0 --34--- 15:00 M 1 07 May 08 May AC 33 YVR 23:55 SYD 07:55 +2 77L 0 1--4567 15:00 M 1 01 May 31 May
May 5, 2008 | 12:11 am
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[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
YVR Vancouver Metro / Vancouver Int'l BC CA = CXH YVR [CYVR] SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY] FRI 02 May 2008 - 09 May 2008 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------- AC 2033 YVR 00:40 SYD 08:40 +1 77L 0 --34--- 15:00 M 1 07 May 08 May
May 5, 2008 | 5:45 am
#20
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Wasn't that what Andrew said?
It seems simple enough. There was a scheduled change that meant the flight would be leaving after midnight and therefore had number conflict with the next day's flight. An unscheduled delay of a 23:55 flight would not affect the flight numbering.
It seems simple enough. There was a scheduled change that meant the flight would be leaving after midnight and therefore had number conflict with the next day's flight. An unscheduled delay of a 23:55 flight would not affect the flight numbering.
May 5, 2008 | 7:33 am
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Flight was delayed for 2 days in a row due to airport facilities limitations that's beyond our control. Reasons as explained above, cannot have 2 flights in the air with the same flight number on the same day, cannot have 2 flight going to the same destination in RES with the same flight number, doesn't make sense to have the crew show up 45 mins early when we know there will be a delay given this is ultra long haul so duty day is valuable.
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May 5, 2008 | 9:48 am
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There is runway work being done in SYD. Takeoffs are being staggered more the usual. The flights leave after midnight those two nights, causing a anomaly whereby you will have two flights with the same number flying at the same time which can't happen, so one flight each day is being renumbered. It's not confusing. It's standard practice.
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May 5, 2008 | 9:59 am
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There is runway work being done in SYD. Takeoffs are being staggered more the usual. The flights leave after midnight those two nights, causing a anomaly whereby you will have two flights with the same number flying at the same time which can't happen, so one flight each day is being renumbered. It's not confusing. It's standard practice.
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May 5, 2008 | 11:47 am
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There is runway work being done in SYD. Takeoffs are being staggered more the usual. The flights leave after midnight those two nights, causing a anomaly whereby you will have two flights with the same number flying at the same time which can't happen, so one flight each day is being renumbered. It's not confusing. It's standard practice.
(After my first ever post on this forum earlier this year was flamed by a moderator no less, I quickly realized that I had to have a thick skin to participate!)
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(just a comment - no slight intended!!! 
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May 5, 2008 | 12:13 pm
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What is fascinating to me aside from Andrew's honest explanation that should have put this thread to rest, is the constant fascination (obsession for some) of delayed AC flights to which they have absolutely no physical connection nor any vested interest. 033/2033/034/2034 joins the ranks of 015/016.
Unless one was physically on the flight and inconveniced as such, why are these topics even thread-worthy?? As if this was something exclusive to AC.
Unless one was physically on the flight and inconveniced as such, why are these topics even thread-worthy?? As if this was something exclusive to AC.
May 5, 2008 | 12:30 pm
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What is fascinating to me aside from Andrew's honest explanation that should have put this thread to rest, is the constant fascination (obsession for some) of delayed AC flights to which they have absolutely no physical connection nor any vested interest. 033/2033/034/2034 joins the ranks of 015/016.
Unless one was physically on the flight and inconveniced as such, why are these topics even thread-worthy?? As if this was something exclusive to AC.
Unless one was physically on the flight and inconveniced as such, why are these topics even thread-worthy?? As if this was something exclusive to AC.
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"No, but surely mankind will never forget (even as mankind badgers the fixed-wing-aircraft attendant to 'double-check just in case there is an extra vegan meal left over because the chicken is kinda rubbery') that crossing the Atlantic once took weeks and weeks, required years of saving, precipitated a certain amount of unwelcome sodomy and involved eating weevils?"
And here, I imagine both brothers laughed happily to themselves until they fell asleep on their respective divans, dreaming of a day when everyone flew all the time and whined about the experience and no one ever, ever had to confront the real cost of air travel.
They slept on but rose early to work, innocent of the $25 surcharge for checking a second suitcase that would one day spoil everything.
And here, I imagine both brothers laughed happily to themselves until they fell asleep on their respective divans, dreaming of a day when everyone flew all the time and whined about the experience and no one ever, ever had to confront the real cost of air travel.
They slept on but rose early to work, innocent of the $25 surcharge for checking a second suitcase that would one day spoil everything.
May 5, 2008 | 1:25 pm
#28
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I only posted this thread because I noticed on KVS that flight 33 was canceled for both May 6 and 7. I thought this was strange given that the flights were still a few days away. The only thing I could think of was the delays that were reported on YYZ/HKG, as both routes use a 77L a/c. My query has been answered, so why don't we just put this thread to rest?
May 6, 2008 | 9:28 pm
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Reminder
The topic of this discussion is "YVR/SYD flights", not "let's discuss poster X and what I/we think are his/her motivations and attitude towards other posters."
Please stay on topic.
Simon
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Please stay on topic.
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