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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:02 pm
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Airpoints changes incoming thread

Just received an email touting change is on the horizon to Airpoints, not too much detail but a few things specifically noted -

- rolling in over coming weeks / months
- Improved online experience
- Aligning tier review and membership year dates

more to come.....watch this space
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:03 pm
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A big one is Australian members are being rolled into the NZD program and that AUD air points will be converted across.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:12 pm
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https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints-updates
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:23 pm
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Originally Posted by henrus
A big one is Australian members are being rolled into the NZD program and that AUD air points will be converted across.
What is the impact of this on NZ members? Anything material?

To me the email was especially underwhelming, nothing of benefit to a frequent flyer I can see.

I suppose we should be thankful its not like their usual "enhancements" gutting the already dismal Airpoints programme even more!
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:25 pm
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Interested to see what changes are coming for Gold and Elite
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 7:27 pm
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Thanks! this part is especially concerning re the Kiwibank topup (my underline)"Yes, you can. If you'd like to top-up your Airpoints Dollars online, please do this before 16 June 2024.

After this date, you'll need to email us to process your request. The email contact details will be added to this page closer to launch.

You'll need to allow 2-4 days for your request to be processed."

Given I am still waiting for any acknowledgement of emails sent to the Elite email address months on, this does not inspire much confidence, at all
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by oranjemakker
What is the impact of this on NZ members? Anything material?

To me the email was especially underwhelming, nothing of benefit to a frequent flyer I can see.

I suppose we should be thankful its not like their usual "enhancements" gutting the already dismal Airpoints programme even more!
No impact on New Zealand members. I have long been able to transfer Aussie card points to my New Zealand based account at an exchange rate set by NZ that changes from time to time.

However, potentially this is bad news to Aussie based members if they were to use the NZ charts going forward. For instance, a full Business fare between SYD and AKL currently earns 71 Aussie APD for Aussie members and 71 NZ APD for NZ based members. If using the same charts, Aussie members will be earning the same 71 NZ APD whereas, using the 1.09 exchange rate, they are currently earning the equivalent of 77.39 NZ APD.

Yep, the whole FAQ page reads like a nothingburger. If there was something more significant coming, they would have said so.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:10 pm
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In typical Air NZ fashion, it is a nothing sandwich,
The aligning of qualification and effective dates just makes sense.

No ability for non Kiwi residents to earn SPs in a different way or a lower threshold such as Air Canada's Chase Card for non Canadians.
No Shairpoints for non-residents.

Having flown my family of seven back and forth to NZ on NZ since youngest was born 18 years ago and oldest 22 years ago annually, with many in between trips for smaller numbers, last week I spent C$32,000 on AC instead of NZ for our Xmas trip. This sum is insignificant to Air NZ, but when enough of us do it, it adds up.
I fly to NZ at least four times a year now and more of those will on AC as opposed to NZ.

Kate O'Brien is the queen of platitudes and obfuscation.
Having had several emails back and forth with her, it is like asking Chippy for straight answers about Bellis being more welcomed by the Taliban than her own government, no answer.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:21 pm
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We’re embarking on a journey to create an even more rewarding travel experience for you. As a key part of this journey, we have some important changes to Airpoints™ in the coming weeks and months that will allow us to bring you even more of the benefits you love over time.
Like what?
Words, empty words, just like revamped business class seats so they are only 10 years out of date and not 20.

A little downtime to launch your new online Airpoints experience
As we bring your new Airpoints experience online we expect there will be some downtime. You don't need to do anything, we will be in touch to let you know what will be affected and how long for, once we are closer to launching these changes. Thank you for your patience in advance.
What can't Air NZ be offline for a few hours over night like any other app, company? They make it sound like days or weeks.
Maybe the same person that orders seats runs the IT department.

​​​​​​​More to come
We’re looking forward to bringing you your new Airpoints dashboard and delivering you more rewarding travel experiences in the near future. For more information about anything you’ve read in this email you can view our frequently asked questions on our website.
Again, hollow words.
I clicked the link for more information and nothing new.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:25 pm
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Tangentially is by say the 16 January to retain status. By 23:59 15 January or 23:59 16 January. And is it local time flight departing or NZ time.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by taupo

Kate O'Brien is the queen of platitudes and obfuscation.
Having had several emails back and forth with her, it is like asking Chippy for straight answers about Bellis being more welcomed by the Taliban than her own government, no answer.
It took Kate O'Brien almost 3 and a half years to come up with this change since she came into the role in Feb 2020. I miss Mark Street!
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:44 pm
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It took Kate O'Brien almost 3 and a half years to come up with this change since she came into the role in Feb 2020. I miss Mark Street!
I'm sure Harvard has an opening for her.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 8:58 pm
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Separate lounge with champagne and plated a la carte dining for Elite.

Lifetime tier status.

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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 9:36 pm
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Well, if this became a soft exit to be able to purchase APD under a sensible (existing) system via Kiwibank etc, that would p*ss a lot of Elites off.
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by taupo
In typical Air NZ fashion, it is a nothing sandwich,
The aligning of qualification and effective dates just makes sense.

No ability for non Kiwi residents to earn SPs in a different way or a lower threshold such as Air Canada's Chase Card for non Canadians.
No Shairpoints for non-residents.

Having flown my family of seven back and forth to NZ on NZ since youngest was born 18 years ago and oldest 22 years ago annually, with many in between trips for smaller numbers, last week I spent C$32,000 on AC instead of NZ for our Xmas trip. This sum is insignificant to Air NZ, but when enough of us do it, it adds up.
I fly to NZ at least four times a year now and more of those will on AC as opposed to NZ.

Kate O'Brien is the queen of platitudes and obfuscation.
Having had several emails back and forth with her, it is like asking Chippy for straight answers about Bellis being more welcomed by the Taliban than her own government, no answer.
Also in the same boat after previously being a big NZ fanboy in years gone past. Now it's one bad thing after another -- the latest thing to grate me is seeing NZ fire sale reward seats to UA members while charging unreasonably high cash fares for their own customers grrr

I really wonder if they've grasped how bad things have gotten -- back in 2015 you would always see NZ mentioned alongside any list of "best airlines" but now the brand is nowhere to be seen.

I'm only holding out at this point to see if they offer some sort of lifetime status, but I suppose that's wishful thinking
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