Instant Status Pass questions, discussion, help requests (2022 on - consolidated)
#151
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Are you talking about miles and LP from flights?
Basically, AA gives you 5 miles (and LP) per dollar spent on flights. You get a percent bonus depending on your status (the highest being 120% as EXP). So an EXP gets 11 LP and RDM per dollar.
When flying partner-marketed flights you earn based on their chart (most are distance based, although notably, BA is about to switch to revenue). In this case you earn the status bonus on the base miles (but not the cabin bonus). All miles earn LP (except for one or two non-alliance partners -- it's made clear on their charts).
So for example if you are flying an AY marketed discount business (I or R) fare, that earns 100% base miles and 50% cabin bonus. If your were EXP you would get your 120% status bonus on the 100% base only.. so you would earn 220% + 50% = 270% of miles flown as both RDM and LP.
Most partners earn 100% on all premium economy, meaning that once you have high status, cheap premium economy deals can be good mileage runs (earning 220% miles as EXP, sometimes on very cheap fares... so, for example, if you could find a cheap LAX-HEL-SIN PE deal, that's a lot of miles)
I'm hoping that some good fares pop up on black Friday. Any excuse for a cheap vacation
Basically, AA gives you 5 miles (and LP) per dollar spent on flights. You get a percent bonus depending on your status (the highest being 120% as EXP). So an EXP gets 11 LP and RDM per dollar.
When flying partner-marketed flights you earn based on their chart (most are distance based, although notably, BA is about to switch to revenue). In this case you earn the status bonus on the base miles (but not the cabin bonus). All miles earn LP (except for one or two non-alliance partners -- it's made clear on their charts).
So for example if you are flying an AY marketed discount business (I or R) fare, that earns 100% base miles and 50% cabin bonus. If your were EXP you would get your 120% status bonus on the 100% base only.. so you would earn 220% + 50% = 270% of miles flown as both RDM and LP.
Most partners earn 100% on all premium economy, meaning that once you have high status, cheap premium economy deals can be good mileage runs (earning 220% miles as EXP, sometimes on very cheap fares... so, for example, if you could find a cheap LAX-HEL-SIN PE deal, that's a lot of miles)
I'm hoping that some good fares pop up on black Friday. Any excuse for a cheap vacation
Last edited by VegasGambler; Sep 15, 2023 at 3:36 pm
#152
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I don't have an AA card (yet) - I'm currently weighing options.
I'm mainly trying to sort where I'll land amid the DL fallout. I've got 15 months to sort that, but I want to start laying pipe, and the current AA offer is definitely of interest because I'm already tied up with Hyatt.
[I don't have a good sense of the quality of Admirals Club F&B or on-board meals. I'd be exclusively a paid F/J passenger; free SDC is my main want/need from the FFP.]
I'm mainly trying to sort where I'll land amid the DL fallout. I've got 15 months to sort that, but I want to start laying pipe, and the current AA offer is definitely of interest because I'm already tied up with Hyatt.
[I don't have a good sense of the quality of Admirals Club F&B or on-board meals. I'd be exclusively a paid F/J passenger; free SDC is my main want/need from the FFP.]
#154
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I know there's an Admiral's Club thread but it's not coming up as easily. Basically F&B won't be at the level or as extensive as Sky Clubs. They started improvements in July 2023 - but started w/ 3 airports only.
#155
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I'm actually not sure what the fees are (the web page says "starting at" $50) but it would require a lot of $50 fees saved in order to make getting status worthwhile IMO. And that's only for confirmed changes; you can stand by for free.
Do they clear standby before the auto-upgrade processor runs? Because if so I would expect the standby success rate to be quite high for paid domestic F.
#156
Join Date: May 2019
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 42
So I've seen some of the blogs say that the current Hyatt / AA Instant Status pass will only get you status through Feb 2025 if you complete all 3 phases, essentially breaking up the status requirements into 3 sections but the same requirements as earning organically. But looking at the previous Hyatt status pass it looks as if completing the challenge gave you another whole year (e.g. Completed challenge in Nov 2023 gave status through Feb 2025). So if I complete all 3 phases in Sep of 2024 will my status expire on Feb 2025 or Feb 2026?
#157
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
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So I've seen some of the blogs say that the current Hyatt / AA Instant Status pass will only get you status through Feb 2025 if you complete all 3 phases, essentially breaking up the status requirements into 3 sections but the same requirements as earning organically. But looking at the previous Hyatt status pass it looks as if completing the challenge gave you another whole year (e.g. Completed challenge in Nov 2023 gave status through Feb 2025). So if I complete all 3 phases in Sep of 2024 will my status expire on Feb 2025 or Feb 2026?
#158
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So I've seen some of the blogs say that the current Hyatt / AA Instant Status pass will only get you status through Feb 2025 if you complete all 3 phases, essentially breaking up the status requirements into 3 sections but the same requirements as earning organically. But looking at the previous Hyatt status pass it looks as if completing the challenge gave you another whole year (e.g. Completed challenge in Nov 2023 gave status through Feb 2025). So if I complete all 3 phases in Sep of 2024 will my status expire on Feb 2025 or Feb 2026?
#159
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#160
Join Date: Aug 2002
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#161
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When you get to Phase 3 it tells you when the status will be good through, those of us who signed up in November 2022 are being told our status is good through March 31, 2025, so based on that anecdotal evidence for those signing up now I believe they will earn status through March 31, 2026.
#162
Join Date: Jul 2011
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there is no longer a tiebreaker about paid vs award tickets being prioritized. That was announced and eliminated earlier this year.
order of upgrades are now sorted simply by status, then upgrade type (systemwide/mileage upgrades 1st before comp upgrades), then running 12-month-total LPs, then timestamp of request if tied LP running 12 months
From https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...y-upgrades.jsp What order are upgrades confirmed? This content can be expanded
Upgrade not confirmed at check-in?
You'll automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list when you check in with American. Your priority at the airport is based on:- Status level (ConciergeKey® members are first, followed by AAdvantage Executive Platinum®, AAdvantage Platinum Pro®, AAdvantage Platinum® and then AAdvantage Gold® members)
- Upgrade type in this order: (1 - Systemwide and mileage award upgrades*, 2 - Complimentary upgrades)
- 12-month rolling Loyalty Points
#163
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When you get to Phase 3 it tells you when the status will be good through, those of us who signed up in November 2022 are being told our status is good through March 31, 2025, so based on that anecdotal evidence for those signing up now I believe they will earn status through March 31, 2026.
#164
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Originally Posted by Instant Status Pass Terms & Conditions
Once you complete all 3 phases in the Instant Status Pass™ you will be granted status for the next membership year immediately following the membership year in which you registered
#165
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Unless you know for certain that the terms are incorrect and you are correct, I would say it's pretty confusing, since it conflicts with people's experience from last year.