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Old May 24, 2023 | 7:04 pm
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AA 2482 LAS-PHL on 5/24 - F Pax add $ to voluntary bump amount

A friend is in F on 2482 from LAS-PHL today. They're told due to departing runway and temperatures that 19 people need to get off the plane. The offer from the AA agents is around $950, but they didn't get the 19 they needed and the agent wouldn't raise the amount, so the pax in F all chipped in $200/person of their own money remaining to get the remain number of volunteers so they could just go.

This follows a horrible day yesterday when the CLT originator returned and cancelled, and they kept stealing planes all day to keep flights from cancelling. Even during that, another plane went tech, and 2482 was 3+ hours late yesterday.
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Old May 24, 2023 | 7:42 pm
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What? Why? Are you saying each F pax personally gave $200 for a total of $4,000 or each pax in F gave $10 for a total of $200?
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Old May 24, 2023 | 7:47 pm
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I think your friend is pulling your leg.
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Old May 24, 2023 | 7:57 pm
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Id be really interested to hear how that transaction was accomplished.
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Old May 24, 2023 | 11:44 pm
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So to clarify, F pax contributed $200 total which helped get the last 4 volunteers. This was a result of departures changing from the 8's to the 26's. See screenshots:

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Old May 25, 2023 | 6:57 am
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Not too hard to believe the F cabin could come up with $200 total (if everyone kicked in a $10 or a $20). It's LAS, so it's not entirely beyond the bounds of imagination to me. If the 4 were together, the $200 would cover some more gambling and drinking. Can't do that with an airline credit voucher.

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Old May 25, 2023 | 7:45 am
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Wait, so $1,150 voucher plus hotel wasn't enough, but an extra $50 a person cash put it over the top? Consider me skeptical.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 10:42 am
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I have been on a flight where just this happened it was a puddle jumper and we needed one person off the plane for weight reasons, we essentially bought a volunteer with cash. She was a college student far more interested in cash in the hand than a voucher, the ga wasn’t overly happy but it was all good spirited with people laughing, the college student said my dad will probably take the voucher, he won’t know about the cash, she was going to see her parents who had paid for her ticket so yeah some people would rather have cash
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Old May 25, 2023 | 10:49 am
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I have no idea if this happened, but if they had 15 volunteers and needed 4 more otherwise the flight would just sit there indefinitely or be canceled, I am pretty sure I would throw some cash in the pot to get that last person to volunteer so I could go home.

Amazing that an airline expects their customers to solve these problems.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 11:10 am
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Amazing that an airline expects their customers to solve these problems.
They don't, and that's exactly why this story is so hard for any of us to believe. They have a process for this, and most of us have personally seen it in action, on AA and the others. (The last time I saw it was in LAS last fall, in fact.) They ask for volunteers, and then when that runs out or it crosses a defined threshold, they pull up the IDB list and start ticking off names in that order. They don't just sit there and hope for a miracle.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 11:45 am
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They don't, and that's exactly why this story is so hard for any of us to believe. They have a process for this, and most of us have personally seen it in action, on AA and the others. (The last time I saw it was in LAS last fall, in fact.) They ask for volunteers, and then when that runs out or it crosses a defined threshold, they pull up the IDB list and start ticking off names in that order. They don't just sit there and hope for a miracle.
In a previous century, I was on a Continental flight from EWR to DEN (Stapleton) that was overweight due to the density altitude on a hot day in Denver. Not enough volunteers, so they just offloaded luggage until the plane met the weight limits. My family and some dozens of other passengers arrived on time but had to wait for the next flight from Newark to get our bags... This is not to make any claims about AA's current IDB processes.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 11:52 am
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My wife is an AA captain, and I asked her to track down the CA to see if the crew knew abut this. According to the captain of AA2482 that day, the crew had no idea this took place, and he got a HUGE laugh when asked, saying it was the most ridiculous thing he's heard in months...
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Old May 25, 2023 | 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
Not too hard to believe the F cabin could come up with $200 total (if everyone kicked in a $10 or a $20). It's LAS, so it's not entirely beyond the bounds of imagination to me. If the 4 were together, the $200 would cover some more gambling and drinking. Can't do that with an airline credit voucher.
So, you're suggesting that all 8 F passengers: 1. agreed to this resolution; 2. had exactly $25 each IN CASH
Furthermore, you assume that AA was cool with this style of underhanded business, for the sake of $200?

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Old May 25, 2023 | 12:00 pm
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I don't believe any of this. However I was at LAS on Tuesday and there was an hour ground delay after pushing off the gate. We were #37 for departure. We got up to 5th for takeoff and they turned the airport around. We then had to taxi down the runway and requeue at the other end.
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Old May 25, 2023 | 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by BWISkyGuy
They don't, and that's exactly why this story is so hard for any of us to believe. They have a process for this, and most of us have personally seen it in action, on AA and the others. (The last time I saw it was in LAS last fall, in fact.) They ask for volunteers, and then when that runs out or it crosses a defined threshold, they pull up the IDB list and start ticking off names in that order. They don't just sit there and hope for a miracle.
The other option AA has is make a fuel stop. I had this once RNO/DFW when we were 30 passengers overweight. AA dithered for some time deciding to do the volunteer/IDB thing for 30, or alternatively stop (in ABQ). ABQ it was.
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