Business Extra Ending 15 Dec 2023, AAdvantage Business program coming
Nov 2, 2023 | 9:47 pm
#106
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: LAX / PHL
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 977
I cant see why the FEIN would be a hard requirement - if the IRS allows sole proprietorships to operate with the owners SSN, then why not issue a business credit card.... besides, all these small business cards have full recourse to the owner so in the end, its all one and the same... or perhaps Im looking at this the wrong way...?
Nov 3, 2023 | 3:14 pm
#107
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 580
How long ago were you approved....? Have you received your new card yet...? Apparently there are substantial delays in mailing out of the actual cards, Im hoping that Citi will provide some form of "virtual" card that one can use without having the physical piece of plastic as Im ready to get that initial spend going as soon as possible.....
Nov 3, 2023 | 5:53 pm
#108
Moderator, Argentina and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: MIA / EZE
Programs: Lord of Malbec & all Wines Argentine. AA EXP / Marriott Lifetime Silver / Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 35,721
Nov 4, 2023 | 4:18 pm
#109
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Plat, HH Gold
Posts: 28
According to the rep in Meeting Services this morning, Yes & yes.
According to the rep in Meeting Services this morning, rerouting is allowed within the award code grouping.
I just called the EXP line to check on similar bookings to the above.
The EXP rep told me that all B.E. calls were being routed to Meeting Services 800-433-1790, and she would transfer. She also told me if I needed to call back, it would be quicker to call the EXP line and let them transfer, as they had a "better" (quicker) internal number for that department.
From the Meeting Services department: To use my BX#s on flights, yes I had to book the flights by December 15th. Regarding flight changes, dates and destinations are flexible, as long as changes to the destination are in the same award group. I specifically asked if I booked a USA to BCN flight, would later be able to change the dates and destination (to LIS, for example). Yes, as long as it was with the BX6 umbrella.
Again, according to the rep in Meeting Services. YMMV.
According to the rep in Meeting Services this morning, rerouting is allowed within the award code grouping.
I just called the EXP line to check on similar bookings to the above.
The EXP rep told me that all B.E. calls were being routed to Meeting Services 800-433-1790, and she would transfer. She also told me if I needed to call back, it would be quicker to call the EXP line and let them transfer, as they had a "better" (quicker) internal number for that department.
From the Meeting Services department: To use my BX#s on flights, yes I had to book the flights by December 15th. Regarding flight changes, dates and destinations are flexible, as long as changes to the destination are in the same award group. I specifically asked if I booked a USA to BCN flight, would later be able to change the dates and destination (to LIS, for example). Yes, as long as it was with the BX6 umbrella.
Again, according to the rep in Meeting Services. YMMV.
Nov 5, 2023 | 8:17 pm
#110
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 920
I had the Business version of the citi AA card already and yesterday received an email about joining the program. So having it already confirms eligibility as well. Does not seem as rewarding as previously but anything extra is good. Weird how the old program continually had promos then abandoned it.
Nov 6, 2023 | 12:30 pm
#111
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Platinum, SPG Platinum
Posts: 10
Would love crowdsourced thinking here on best usage of the remaining BE points on hand
Options are:
1. Have long haul international travel with an infant in arms coming up next month and would have enough BE points to secure the child their own seat instead for the round trip
2. Book long haul flight that I know will happen in December next year just would ideally like to push it out to the second half of December next year, will still need to get 3 more seats on AA Metal though for that flight next year and that would severely limit redemption options via other methods as we all know saver availability for partner bookings is found as frequently as unicorns are
3. Convert the points to AA award miles
I am sure I am overthinking this - leaning towards option 1 and just being more comfortable but would love a random group to give their thoughts!
Options are:
1. Have long haul international travel with an infant in arms coming up next month and would have enough BE points to secure the child their own seat instead for the round trip
2. Book long haul flight that I know will happen in December next year just would ideally like to push it out to the second half of December next year, will still need to get 3 more seats on AA Metal though for that flight next year and that would severely limit redemption options via other methods as we all know saver availability for partner bookings is found as frequently as unicorns are
3. Convert the points to AA award miles
I am sure I am overthinking this - leaning towards option 1 and just being more comfortable but would love a random group to give their thoughts!
Nov 6, 2023 | 8:44 pm
#112
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 10,980
Would love crowdsourced thinking here on best usage of the remaining BE points on hand
Options are:
1. Have long haul international travel with an infant in arms coming up next month and would have enough BE points to secure the child their own seat instead for the round trip
2. Book long haul flight that I know will happen in December next year just would ideally like to push it out to the second half of December next year, will still need to get 3 more seats on AA Metal though for that flight next year and that would severely limit redemption options via other methods as we all know saver availability for partner bookings is found as frequently as unicorns are
3. Convert the points to AA award miles
I am sure I am overthinking this - leaning towards option 1 and just being more comfortable but would love a random group to give their thoughts!
Options are:
1. Have long haul international travel with an infant in arms coming up next month and would have enough BE points to secure the child their own seat instead for the round trip
2. Book long haul flight that I know will happen in December next year just would ideally like to push it out to the second half of December next year, will still need to get 3 more seats on AA Metal though for that flight next year and that would severely limit redemption options via other methods as we all know saver availability for partner bookings is found as frequently as unicorns are
3. Convert the points to AA award miles
I am sure I am overthinking this - leaning towards option 1 and just being more comfortable but would love a random group to give their thoughts!
Book what you can while you can. It's an award booking so you can change the dates/routings - not O&D - after initially ticketing I had 7210 points, I booked a mid-winter trip from SFO-CDG in J for 7200 BE points. That's 43,200 Loyalty points in the conversion. Try booing a J award ticket to Paris for that. Terrible, terrible, terrible conversion.
My return flights were initially booked as CDG-JFK-DFW-SFO, but with an EF alert plus regular checking, I moved quickly when U opened up on the JFK-SFO non-stop.
Last edited by HNL; Nov 6, 2023 at 8:57 pm
Nov 7, 2023 | 12:02 pm
#113
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 204
After resigning myself to not being able to book a single locator I tried to book myself and two others onto three separate locators. Could not even do that. I am only able to book travel for myself - even though I am registered as the travel manager
Nov 7, 2023 | 1:08 pm
#114
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BDL, BOS
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA EXP, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 640
Perhaps if enough of us let them know we are unhappy with this they will modify the platform.
Nov 8, 2023 | 6:23 am
#116
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Palm Beach/ New England
Programs: AA EXP 3MM, DL GM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,407
I've managed to burn four BXP1s (650 BusinessExtrAA points each), but I had to book well into 2024 to find the availability in "C" class, which is the domestic upgrade inventory. Another gotcha is that fares in QSONB are not upgradeable. Each ticket requires a phone call with AA ticketing to upfare to G and then a second call to Meeting Services to apply the upgrade. All This is after the inventory has been identified in ExpertFlyer.
I guess I now can see why AA wants to eliminate this program, as it requires about an hour of phone time (both mine, and importantly, theirs) to redeem 650 BE points, which they value as 3900 AAdvantage points, worth perhaps $50 on the AA balance sheet. Meanwhile, it looks like I have accumulated another 1000 points since the program cancellation was announced, so I will probably need to book two more of these before December 15 LOL.
I guess I now can see why AA wants to eliminate this program, as it requires about an hour of phone time (both mine, and importantly, theirs) to redeem 650 BE points, which they value as 3900 AAdvantage points, worth perhaps $50 on the AA balance sheet. Meanwhile, it looks like I have accumulated another 1000 points since the program cancellation was announced, so I will probably need to book two more of these before December 15 LOL.
Nov 8, 2023 | 2:04 pm
#117
Join Date: Oct 2016
Programs: AA
Posts: 86
Conversion to AA Loyalty Points is a terrible option. They convert a 1 x 6.
Book what you can while you can. It's an award booking so you can change the dates/routings - not O&D - after initially ticketing I had 7210 points, I booked a mid-winter trip from SFO-CDG in J for 7200 BE points. That's 43,200 Loyalty points in the conversion. Try booing a J award ticket to Paris for that. Terrible, terrible, terrible conversion.
My return flights were initially booked as CDG-JFK-DFW-SFO, but with an EF alert plus regular checking, I moved quickly when U opened up on the JFK-SFO non-stop.
Book what you can while you can. It's an award booking so you can change the dates/routings - not O&D - after initially ticketing I had 7210 points, I booked a mid-winter trip from SFO-CDG in J for 7200 BE points. That's 43,200 Loyalty points in the conversion. Try booing a J award ticket to Paris for that. Terrible, terrible, terrible conversion.
My return flights were initially booked as CDG-JFK-DFW-SFO, but with an EF alert plus regular checking, I moved quickly when U opened up on the JFK-SFO non-stop.
Nov 9, 2023 | 6:04 am
#118
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
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Nov 10, 2023 | 5:37 pm
#119
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BDL, BOS
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA EXP, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 640
Travel managers can book flights on behalf of others according to T&Cs
I just found this in the T&Cs:
Weve all been lamenting that this wasnt possible. Obviously the functionality isnt available to do this now but given the T&Cs I wonder if this is in the product roadmap? Can anyone get some inside scoop? Or maybe this is carryover language from the old Business Extra program that they neglected to update.
Travel Managers may also book flights on behalf of Business Travelers. In performing such tasks, Travel Managers may have access to personal information of the Businesss Business Travelers, including each Business Travelers name, email address, date of birth, AAdvantage number, and information about each Business Travelers flights booked under the Program (the "Business Traveler Information"). Each Travel Manager shall: (i) keep all Business Traveler Information confidential and not disclose such information to any third parties; (ii) only use such Business Traveler Information in compliance with applicable laws and regulations; (iii) not export the Business Traveler Information; and (iv) only use such Business Traveler Information for the sole purpose of performing the obligations of, and solely for the duration of time that such Travel Manager is, a Travel Manager under the Program. The Business consents to each Travel Managers access to and use of the Business Traveler Information. American will not be liable to the Business, Travel Managers, or Business Travelers for any misuse or unauthorized use of the Business Traveler Information by the Business or Travel Managers.
Nov 10, 2023 | 5:51 pm
#120
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BDL, BOS
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA EXP, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 640
I just found this in the T&Cs:
Weve all been lamenting that this wasnt possible. Obviously the functionality isnt available to do this now but given the T&Cs I wonder if this is in the product roadmap? Can anyone get some inside scoop? Or maybe this is carryover language from the old Business Extra program that they neglected to update.
Weve all been lamenting that this wasnt possible. Obviously the functionality isnt available to do this now but given the T&Cs I wonder if this is in the product roadmap? Can anyone get some inside scoop? Or maybe this is carryover language from the old Business Extra program that they neglected to update.