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Post by brc757rr, July 2015:
Post by brc757rr, July 2015:
Originally Posted by AA policy regarding PDB
Pre-departure beverages are expected to be offered on all flights. On domestic flights, customers should be offered a beverage of choice. On international flights with bonded liquor, we offer a choice of orange juice, water, sparkling water, sparkling wine and mimosas and will fulfill requests for non alcoholic beverages of choice provided that supplies can be obtained without opening bonded carts and carriers. If pre-departure beverages cannot be served because of operational reasons, flight attendants are expected to apologize to customers and advise that beverages will be served as soon as possible after take off.
I was able to receive the exact language of the company policy from American Airlines today via Twitter regarding PDB's. I was actually quite impressed they followed up with me regarding a conversation that started a few days ago. I also received a nice note from Hector Adler who I also reached out to who said that pre-departure services were discussed at great length at a meeting late last week. Let's hope things begin to improve and if not we continue to press the FA's to follow company policy.
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Did a little searching on Twitter. A good hashtag could be just #PDBServed and the condition listed before that. So, something like:
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG No #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Full #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Limited #PDBServed
This allows all PDB service to be posted, good, bad, and otherwise. This should show AA that we feel this is a desired service. Maybe if someone gets energetic, a summary post could be done, maybe weekly?
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG No #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Full #PDBServed
@AmericanAir 08/18 AA123 ORG Limited #PDBServed
This allows all PDB service to be posted, good, bad, and otherwise. This should show AA that we feel this is a desired service. Maybe if someone gets energetic, a summary post could be done, maybe weekly?
ARCHIVE: Predeparture Drinks/Beverage (PDB) - When, What and Why Not?
#3436
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I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
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#3438
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Again, I don't understand the aggressive energy about this. As I mentioned, I've never been denied a drink when I ask. I understand and agree it's part of the service that comes with the fare. Life is too short to get worked up over a couple of plastic cups of wine or juice or whatever.
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Complain with your wallet.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
I've gotten to the point that my business lets me buy F when it is appropriate (long flights followed by immediate business at destination). Since June every F booking I've made has been DL or B6 (Mint is my new favorite domestic F product). I used the last of my SWUs in November (did receive full PDBs) and that was pretty much the end of my AA spending. I'm rather enjoying being a free agent. Now I just pick the best product and best routing for my business travel.
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What evolution? I think I said from the beginning it's an entitlement. There was never a question about who should be fulfilling the entitlement. "Entitlement" means something to which you are entitled and something that should be provided. The part I'm struggling with is the goal of exchanging notes about it here instead of writing to American. Maybe American reads this thread more than I think?
By the way, I enjoy reading your twitter feed. It's good fun and informative.
By the way, I enjoy reading your twitter feed. It's good fun and informative.
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26 Jan AA1363 MIA-CLT No PDB offered
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Complain with your wallet.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
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Complain with your wallet.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
I do agree there's really no point in adding to this thread. AA doesn't care (at least for now),
I've switched all of my premium business to DL and Sky team and could not be happier. The only AA flights I have left this year are those booked in O/Q and upgraded to C using my SWUs.
AA wants to train us to buy F if we want F? Not a problem!! Happy to do so, but it sure as h-ll won't be on AA when their competition offers far superior service and products, including PDB.
#3445
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Best. AA. Service. Ever.
1/26/17 AA102 pmAA HNL-DFW Full PDB.
And let me add WOW! Outstanding service throughout the redeye flight. Walked the cabin. Proactively offered drinks,. On par with LH/QR/SQ/TG. (Really no BS!) This crew rocked! From the joking pre-departure to the service throughout, this crew was world class.
They gave a speech without the mike predeparture 'dont be shy to press the call button for a drink during the flight'. I have never seen before on AA !!! No AA crew has EVER stood at this level in AA/US Business Class. Bravo. Well done.
I will be the first to rip a crew. And hopefully, the first to say well done. If all AA crews were at this level, goodbye DL, goodbye UA. (Yes, applause certs given. And I literally shook hands with them as I left.) Best. Damn. AA. Crew. Ever. Stupid good!
Excellent job Mike and crew. (They fly this route regularly.)
And let me add WOW! Outstanding service throughout the redeye flight. Walked the cabin. Proactively offered drinks,. On par with LH/QR/SQ/TG. (Really no BS!) This crew rocked! From the joking pre-departure to the service throughout, this crew was world class.
They gave a speech without the mike predeparture 'dont be shy to press the call button for a drink during the flight'. I have never seen before on AA !!! No AA crew has EVER stood at this level in AA/US Business Class. Bravo. Well done.
I will be the first to rip a crew. And hopefully, the first to say well done. If all AA crews were at this level, goodbye DL, goodbye UA. (Yes, applause certs given. And I literally shook hands with them as I left.) Best. Damn. AA. Crew. Ever. Stupid good!
Excellent job Mike and crew. (They fly this route regularly.)
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I can't imagine even thinking about running my business that way.
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I meant in regards to letting the SWUs expire, I doubt AA cares at all about that. Of course withdrawing your business sends some sort of other message, but to be honest, for every person leaving AA, someone is leaving DL or UA.