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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 12:54 am
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        Could someone please check BA8461 LCY-IBZ 28/09/16 please
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 2:25 am
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        Originally Posted by gallagher
        Could someone please check BA8461 LCY-IBZ 28/09/16 please
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LCY on 09/28/16 12:00 AM for IBZ
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA (CJ) 8461  0      LCY                IBZ                E90       W,Th            J0 C0 D0 RC IC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC NC QC OC SC G0 
                             09/28/16 9:10 AM   09/28/16 12:35 PM            60% / 28m
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 6:28 am
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        Hi

        Could someone check BA105, Lhr-dxb please? 5th Oct.

        Thanks

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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 7:01 am
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        Originally Posted by fodenben
        hi

        could someone check ba105, lhr-dxb please? 5th oct.

        Thanks

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        uk pos: F1 a1 j9 c3 d1 rc ic w9 e9 t6 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o1 g0
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 7:04 am
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        Originally Posted by florens
        uk pos: F1 a1 j9 c3 d1 rc ic w9 e9 t6 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o1 g0
        Thank you!
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:04 am
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        Hello!!
        Can anyone check the loads on TP1019/MADLIS/29SEP and IB3118/MADLIS/29SEP?
        Thanks in advance!
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:06 am
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        Originally Posted by duarteaf
        Hello!!
        Can anyone check the loads on TP1019/MADLIS/29SEP and IB3118/MADLIS/29SEP?
        Thanks in advance!
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing MAD on 09/29/16 12:00 AM for LIS
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        TP 1019       0      MAD                LIS                319       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   C8 D7 Z6 J4 P0 R0 Y9 B7 M6 S6 H0 Q0 V0 W0 A0 K0 L0 U0 E0 T0 O0 G0 N0 
                             09/29/16 10:00 PM  09/29/16 10:15 PM            76% / 17m
        
        0 Connections
        IB 3118       0      MAD                LIS                321       Daily           J1 C1 D1 R1 I1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 Z0 L0 A0 V0 S0 W0 N0 Q0 O0 P0 
                             09/29/16 11:10 PM  09/29/16 11:25 PM            98% / 6m
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        Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:27 am
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        Thanks Andriyko, much appreciated!
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:14 am
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        Hello

        Can someone please check:

        BA0032 - HKG - LHR - 03/Oct/16

        BA0032 - HKG - LHR - 04/Oct/16
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:33 am
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        Originally Posted by WorldWideWolfie
        Hello

        Can someone please check:

        BA0032 - HKG - LHR - 03/Oct/16

        BA0032 - HKG - LHR - 04/Oct/16
        BA 32 - 3 October 2016
        F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        BA 32 - 4 October 2016
        F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:46 am
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        Originally Posted by sebanto2001
        BA 32 - 3 October 2016
        F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        BA 32 - 4 October 2016
        F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
        Thanks v much!
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 4:08 am
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        Could someone please be so kind to check CX270 AMS-HKG on 3 October?
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 4:51 am
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        Originally Posted by AJO
        Could someone please be so kind to check CX270 AMS-HKG on 3 October?
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing AMS on 10/03/16 12:00 AM for HKG
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        CX 270        0      AMS                HKG                77W       Daily           J8 C8 D8 I7 W3 R3 E3 YL BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QC OL 
                             10/03/16 1:10 PM   10/04/16 6:20 AM             73% / 14m
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 5:27 am
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        Thanks Andriyko! Looks like there's a bit of upgrade hope left for a lowly OWE flying Y...

        Last edited by AJO; Sep 28, 2016 at 5:36 am
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        Old Sep 28, 2016 | 8:45 am
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        My connecting flight, CX139 HKG-SYD on 4 October, looks even better (worse?); CX.com will only sell me a flexible J fare at the moment. Care to look up the exact details in EF?
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