Why can't I find this ba.com fare on ITA Matrix?
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Why can't I find this ba.com fare on ITA Matrix?
Trying to book LHR-IAD/BOS-LHR in WTP. Out 16 Nov back 30 Nov. Nonstops.
ba.com gives a £833.45 fare in T class. I had guessed this part of sale ending tomorrow night but may be wrong. I'd love to find this fare in Matrix to get the rules but can't find anything less than £1287.45 for same flights in WTP which is explained as an "shoulder season midweek premium economy instant purchase fare" in the rules, but without, in quick scan there, any purchase by date, thought I assume there is one.
Basic question: why doesn't Matrix reveal the "good" ba.com fare.
Thanks, NTFM
ba.com gives a £833.45 fare in T class. I had guessed this part of sale ending tomorrow night but may be wrong. I'd love to find this fare in Matrix to get the rules but can't find anything less than £1287.45 for same flights in WTP which is explained as an "shoulder season midweek premium economy instant purchase fare" in the rules, but without, in quick scan there, any purchase by date, thought I assume there is one.
Basic question: why doesn't Matrix reveal the "good" ba.com fare.
Thanks, NTFM
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I suspect it is this one QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
There seem to be a number of special WTP fares which are only available via ba.com.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
There seem to be a number of special WTP fares which are only available via ba.com.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search: Departing LHR on 16/11/16 for IAD Fare basis code QLX4S4T1/DIF4 Flying BA Routing via North Atlantic Rule Category Rule Text ELIGIBILITY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED VALID FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. OR - FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. OR - FOR ADULT. DAY/TIME FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM FOR MIDWEEK -LX TYPE FARES FROM UNITED KINGDOM - PERMITTED MON THROUGH WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASONALITY FOR -L TYPE FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 6E PERMITTED 29OCT 16 THROUGH 12DEC 16 OR 25DEC 16 THROUGH 29MAR 17 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. FLIGHT APPLICATION BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING HA FLIGHTS 1900 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS AND THE UNITED STATES/CANADA ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT ANY B6 FLIGHT ANY HA FLIGHT ANY WS FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA SEN/STN AIRPORTS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BE FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY IN COMBINATION WITH ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BT ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HN ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY US ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7 ANY AB FLIGHT ANY AF FLIGHT ANY AY FLIGHT ANY AT FLIGHT ANY BE FLIGHT ANY BT FLIGHT ANY HG FLIGHT ANY IG FLIGHT ANY JP FLIGHT ANY JU FLIGHT ANY KK FLIGHT ANY KM FLIGHT ANY OU FLIGHT ANY RO FLIGHT ANY OV FLIGHT ANY S7 FLIGHT ANY TU FLIGHT ANY US FLIGHT ANY 6E FLIGHT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7 ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7 ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB ANY HG FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7 ANY AT FLIGHT OPERATED BY AT ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE ANY BT FLIGHT OPERATED BY BT ANY IG FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG ANY JP FLIGHT OPERATED BY JP ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU ANY KK FLIGHT OPERATED BY KK ANY KM FLIGHT OPERATED BY KM ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU ANY OV FLIGHT OPERATED BY OV ANY RO FLIGHT OPERATED BY RO ANY TU FLIGHT OPERATED BY TU ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB ANY 9B FLIGHT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CANADA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY WS FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN HAWAII THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY BA FLIGHT. ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE JB05 IN IPRG APPLIES FOR -X4 TYPE FARES RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK. THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS. MINIMUM STAY FOR ROUND TRIP FARES TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. MAXIMUM STAY BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. STOPOVERS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 FOR Q- TYPE FARES STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. TRANSFERS BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/ CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. PERMITTED COMBINATIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA FARES -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA FARES -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3 IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA ATLANTIC TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. SURCHARGES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. A SURCHARGE OF GBP 29.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING BA FLIGHT 2273. BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND UNITED KINGDOM THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AS. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR QF. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AY. FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01APR 14 THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR US. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. AND - ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM - A SURCHARGE OF GBP 119.50 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 27AUG 13. SALES RESTRICTIONS FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16. PENALTIES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE. ---------------------------------------------- WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS TRAVELLING COMPANIONS. ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH REFUNDABLE FARES 1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED. 2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. 3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. ---------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. ---------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON. ---------------------------------------------- -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------ FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR REFUND. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN ORIGINAL. PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD. REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS. ---------------------------------------------- CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE. -------------------------------------------------- A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY. -------------------------------------------------- REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED. OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND IF APPLICABLE. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- --- REPRICING CONDITIONS --- HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE. A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED. B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED - WHICHEVER IS LOWER. C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED- WHICHEVER IS LOWER. D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. -------------------------------------------------- 1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. 2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE. -------------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. -------------------------------------------------- NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED. -------------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON. HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. TICKET ENDORSEMENT UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - 467107/L/BA-IB ONLY - AND - NON-REF/NON-END - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. CHILDREN DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED AGENT DISCOUNTS NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT WITH A DIFFERENTIAL. FARE BY RULE BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST VOLUNTARY CHANGES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 FOR Q- TYPE FARES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE GBP 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT 2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE GBP 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O SEAT AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST BE DOMESTIC 2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN ADD-COLLECT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT.
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I've had this quite a lot recently, especially for WT+
There's also some interesting ones bookable via BA Holidays that aren't on Matrix, Google Flights etc. I booked one the other day for £920 LHR-SJC return, including a decent car rental (and, if my calculations are correct, yielding something like 35k Avios with the 3x promotion & holidays bonus)
There's also some interesting ones bookable via BA Holidays that aren't on Matrix, Google Flights etc. I booked one the other day for £920 LHR-SJC return, including a decent car rental (and, if my calculations are correct, yielding something like 35k Avios with the 3x promotion & holidays bonus)
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Just for clarity, but can't help with regards to Matrix as never used it.
15. SALES RESTRICTIONS
FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16.
FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16.
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Hi,
Its a special Economy fare with an upgrade to WTP. Rule is the same both directions
LAST TKT DTE 24SEP16 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
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AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
LON
WAS BA 217 T T 16NOV 1115 QLX4S4T1/DIF4 16NOV16NOV 2P
BOS S U R F A C E
LON BA 212 T T 30NOV 1755 QLX8Y4T1/DIF4 30NOV30NOV 2P
GBP 415.00 16NOV16LON BA WAS294.03/-BOS BA LON248.29
NUC542.32END ROE0.765204
GBP 183.00YQ XT GBP 41.65UB GBP 4.20YC GBP 13.60US GBP
GBP 146.00GB 13.60US GBP 3.00XA GBP 5.40XY GBP 4.30AY
GBP 89.25XT GBP 3.50XF BOS4.50
GBP 833.25
NO CHARGEABLE ANCILLARY SERVICE
CARD PAYMENT FEES UP TO GBP 5.00 MAY APPLY
CAT35 NEGOTIATED FARES *F*
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT LONWAS BA QLX4S4T1
FCL: QLX4S4T1 TRF: 864 RULE: DIF4 BK: T*
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPX-INSTANT PURCHASE EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
FARE BY RULE
BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES
NOT APPLY
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
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WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
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REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
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ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
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>md
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
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CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Its a special Economy fare with an upgrade to WTP. Rule is the same both directions
LAST TKT DTE 24SEP16 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
------------------------<NEGO>------------------------------
AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
LON
WAS BA 217 T T 16NOV 1115 QLX4S4T1/DIF4 16NOV16NOV 2P
BOS S U R F A C E
LON BA 212 T T 30NOV 1755 QLX8Y4T1/DIF4 30NOV30NOV 2P
GBP 415.00 16NOV16LON BA WAS294.03/-BOS BA LON248.29
NUC542.32END ROE0.765204
GBP 183.00YQ XT GBP 41.65UB GBP 4.20YC GBP 13.60US GBP
GBP 146.00GB 13.60US GBP 3.00XA GBP 5.40XY GBP 4.30AY
GBP 89.25XT GBP 3.50XF BOS4.50
GBP 833.25
NO CHARGEABLE ANCILLARY SERVICE
CARD PAYMENT FEES UP TO GBP 5.00 MAY APPLY
CAT35 NEGOTIATED FARES *F*
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT LONWAS BA QLX4S4T1
FCL: QLX4S4T1 TRF: 864 RULE: DIF4 BK: T*
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPX-INSTANT PURCHASE EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
FARE BY RULE
BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES
NOT APPLY
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
----------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
----------------------------------------------
-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
PAGE 3/ 7
>md
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
----------------------------------------------
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
#11
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Dual Inventory Fare.
I think that the way they work is like this: Normally, you would expect a T class (WT+) fare to have a fare basis code starting with the letter T, for example TLX8S4C1; normally, the first letter of the fare basis indicates the booking class into which the fare must book (at least on the main part of the journey).
However, KARFA quoted a fare basis QLX4S4T1/DIF4. If you were to see a fare basis of QLX4S4T1 on its own, you'd expect it to be a cheap economy fare booking into Q class (the second lowest booking class) - and if you look at a fare listing for your route (eg on ExpertFlyer) you should be able to see that fare listed.
However, QLX4S4T1/DIF4 is a fare that books into T class and therefore gets you seated in WT+. But it should only be valid if both Q class and T class seats are available on the flight - hence "Dual Inventory". If Q class is sold out on your flight, then it does not help if the flight is T9. To book in T class, you'd then have to pay a different (and higher) fare. For example, if the flight is T9 N9 Q0, you could book in T class using NLX4S4T1/DIF4 but not QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
I think that the way they work is like this: Normally, you would expect a T class (WT+) fare to have a fare basis code starting with the letter T, for example TLX8S4C1; normally, the first letter of the fare basis indicates the booking class into which the fare must book (at least on the main part of the journey).
However, KARFA quoted a fare basis QLX4S4T1/DIF4. If you were to see a fare basis of QLX4S4T1 on its own, you'd expect it to be a cheap economy fare booking into Q class (the second lowest booking class) - and if you look at a fare listing for your route (eg on ExpertFlyer) you should be able to see that fare listed.
However, QLX4S4T1/DIF4 is a fare that books into T class and therefore gets you seated in WT+. But it should only be valid if both Q class and T class seats are available on the flight - hence "Dual Inventory". If Q class is sold out on your flight, then it does not help if the flight is T9. To book in T class, you'd then have to pay a different (and higher) fare. For example, if the flight is T9 N9 Q0, you could book in T class using NLX4S4T1/DIF4 but not QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
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I am fine, we are a Specialist Partner (Marine and Groups) for BA and had communications regarding selling them. Basically fares are £200 each way to upgrade I believe
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