Jul 30, 2019, 10:52 am
Last edit by: davie355
At least 3 FlyerTalkers were onboard and have posted eyewitness reports. Excerpts and direct links follow
All reports implicate a musical artist/rapper named Busta Rhymes.
All reports implicate a musical artist/rapper named Busta Rhymes.
- Artist boards and his handler begins packing away his bags in the overheads. To note the artist brought 4 carryon bags which meant regardless of the situation that he would have struggled to easily find space (especially as the cabin was full). It was apparent that the handler was having trouble finding space and the artist began getting irate asking whose stuff is this my wife replied, mine artist responds move your stuff.
- I could tell immediately that this would only end in an argument so I suggested to my wife that she just move her bags to avoid confrontation my wife quite rightfully responded why should I, we are supposed to share this bin this is when the artist flew off the handle: move your stuff, now he was towering over my wifes seat and she was terrified I stood up and asked him to not be so rude to my wife and to leave it to which he responded with then lets go, homeboy essentially offering me to fight him!!!!
A woman started to cry and the situation escalated very quickly. I then jumped in as I can't tolerate any case of abusive behaviour. He threatened me personally because I jumped in. The CSD got involved. The Captain decided to not offload him (don't ask me why because we really don't know, we were all shocked at his judgment call). Instead, the crew asked if any of us would feel safer by taking the next flight.
29 July 19: BA112 [JFK-LHR] incident in F cabin
Jul 30, 2019 | 9:10 am
#92
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How did the other passengers know who he was? Did he tell them?
If I ever manage to end up in F, I hope there aren't any "celebrities" in there doing anything noteworthy, or I'd probably offend them further by not recognising them. Even if they said "I'm Busta Rhymes", that still wouldn't help...
If I ever manage to end up in F, I hope there aren't any "celebrities" in there doing anything noteworthy, or I'd probably offend them further by not recognising them. Even if they said "I'm Busta Rhymes", that still wouldn't help...
Jul 30, 2019 | 9:24 am
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"Champagne and Caviar with Busta Rhymes". How dull and cliched......Bling bling look at me yadda yadda yadda yawn yawn.
The world really needs less of these people prancing around.
Anyway, rant over.
The world really needs less of these people prancing around.
Anyway, rant over.
Jul 30, 2019 | 9:31 am
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066304/
Mr Rhymes himself has been involved in various incidents of violent or aggressive action, including when he considered the service he received to be unsatisfactory:
2006: https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lt-in-new-york
2013: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/busta...baby_n_3007243
2015: https://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/busta...assault-video/
Last edited by flatlander; Jul 30, 2019 at 9:37 am
Jul 30, 2019 | 9:51 am
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How did the other passengers know who he was? Did he tell them?
If I ever manage to end up in F, I hope there aren't any "celebrities" in there doing anything noteworthy, or I'd probably offend them further by not recognising them. Even if they said "I'm Busta Rhymes", that still wouldn't help...
If I ever manage to end up in F, I hope there aren't any "celebrities" in there doing anything noteworthy, or I'd probably offend them further by not recognising them. Even if they said "I'm Busta Rhymes", that still wouldn't help...
Jul 30, 2019 | 10:06 am
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Finally someone actually named him. There are hundreds of rappers, and we can't exactly be expected to know many if you have no particular wish to keep up with the musical style.
I assume the lack of storage space about 1A/K on a 747 was the issue. Expecting to HBO and being in a hurry to connect, and some people used the luggage space above their head. Which is fair enough.
Google seems quite insistent that I need to be sold something by the rapper, or that someone else had a flight incident. It is as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
I'd imagine if I was a millionaire with a few people with me to a paid gig, that I'd use a private jet. Especially if I'm trying to cut it close, which sounds like he was.
I assume the lack of storage space about 1A/K on a 747 was the issue. Expecting to HBO and being in a hurry to connect, and some people used the luggage space above their head. Which is fair enough.
Google seems quite insistent that I need to be sold something by the rapper, or that someone else had a flight incident. It is as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
I'd imagine if I was a millionaire with a few people with me to a paid gig, that I'd use a private jet. Especially if I'm trying to cut it close, which sounds like he was.
Jul 30, 2019 | 10:08 am
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70 odd posts before naming it properly rather than some obscure guessing game.Similar to FT rule about not posting link without an excerpt, there should be a rule that if you really don't want to name someone don't start a thread. I don't see anything wrong with saying I was sitting in first class and Trevor Smith Jr. kicked up a hissy fit, blah blah blah.
Jul 30, 2019 | 10:14 am
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Listening to rap music "was significantly and positively associated with alcohol use, problematic alcohol use, illicit drug use, and aggressive behaviors when all other variables were controlled."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066304/
Mr Rhymes himself has been involved in various incidents of violent or aggressive action, including when he considered the service he received to be unsatisfactory:
2006: https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lt-in-new-york
2013: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/busta...baby_n_3007243
2015: https://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/busta...assault-video/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066304/
Mr Rhymes himself has been involved in various incidents of violent or aggressive action, including when he considered the service he received to be unsatisfactory:
2006: https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lt-in-new-york
2013: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/busta...baby_n_3007243
2015: https://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/busta...assault-video/
Jul 30, 2019 | 10:50 am
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I think I got it, I had to bust a gut to work it out
I didn't read to the end before turning detective, I should have I guess
Last edited by Soupdragon62; Jul 30, 2019 at 10:56 am
Jul 30, 2019 | 10:51 am
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Listening to rap music "was significantly and positively associated with alcohol use, problematic alcohol use, illicit drug use, and aggressive behaviors when all other variables were controlled."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066304/
Mr Rhymes himself has been involved in various incidents of violent or aggressive action, including when he considered the service he received to be unsatisfactory:
2006: https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lt-in-new-york
2013: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/busta...baby_n_3007243
2015: https://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/busta...assault-video/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066304/
Mr Rhymes himself has been involved in various incidents of violent or aggressive action, including when he considered the service he received to be unsatisfactory:
2006: https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...lt-in-new-york
2013: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/busta...baby_n_3007243
2015: https://www.tmz.com/2015/11/17/busta...assault-video/
selective quotation is not always advisable. In its conclusion, that study cautions:
Findings of this study, however, should be interpreted with caution. Due to the cross-sectional nature of the data, it is difficult to make causal inferences about the relationships between music listening and substance use and aggression. It is possible that frequent exposure to rap music significantly contributes to positive values towards substance use and violence. It is also possible that individuals who often listen to rap music view substance use and violence more positively prior to listening to this genre of music; music listening thus at most reinforces these values. Alternatively, substance use, aggression, and music listening may be independent constructs but share common third factors. Finally, our study sample may not be representative of all community college students because our study focused on students aged 25 or younger attending daytime classes. Neither may our study findings be generalized to college students in general, as a large proportion of our survey sample (62%) was non-white. Nor may the study findings be generalized to young people who do not attend colleges.
Some people are odious, others are not (including rappers). His job isnt the issue.
Jul 30, 2019 | 11:06 am
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Seven pages and nobody has asked what kind of compo (Avios) you got for an obnoxious twat in F? Or is it so common that everyone knows already?
Jul 30, 2019 | 11:27 am
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For the record
We were in FC and witnessed the entire incident. For the record there was plenty of overhead space for BR's carry on. But he insisted that his belongings be placed in the overhead directly above his seat (2A). The terrified young lady in 2E has just as much right to have her belongings there as there is no overhead bin over the two middle seats in FC. And oh btw first come first served should govern. Yet he immediately became aggressive and she yielded while in tears to moving her stuff to the other side of the plane. When her husband who was helping suggested that BR need not be rude, BR then became more aggressive and called the husband "homeboy" . When 1A courageously tried to defend them, BR threatened him. At which point 4A summoned the flight attendants to intercede. Frankly the flight attendants should have been there at the outset and required him to take other overhead space rather than let him bully the young couple. That said shame on BA for allowing BR to remain on that flight. We almost missed our connection (the doors were closed upon arrival at the gate) but they opened it for us. Needless to say some of our luggage did not make the connection which is a total nuisance . Offering the whole FC cabin the option to take a later flight just empowered his aggressive behavior.