BA Planned 787-10 Routes for 2023
Jan 3, 2023, 2:01 pm
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I think on the new First, with the fixed TV screen, buddy dining is not possible ( not approved by crew although 1 poster reported here that they tried it iirc)
No problems with First buddy dining on the A380
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Jan 4, 2023, 1:52 am
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BA's 787-10s don't feature crew bunks (flight crews do have them, I seem to remember) and thus there's a limit to the length of a journey they can fly on as routes beyond a certain duration require crew to have "horizontal rest". Those who know best, like MFCC or others, will fact-check me but I seem to recall that SEA/PDX are as far west as the 78X can travel to. Even in those cases, if there's a substantial delay, the crew will be operating 'at discretion'. Bottom line = we're unlikely to see a 78X on LHR-LAX until it gets crew bunks, which it might never do to be honest.
When the 781 was ordered, the company stated that they would be used on east coast and ME routes, hence having no bunks was not an issue.
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Jan 4, 2023, 2:23 am
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Jan 4, 2023, 2:31 am
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Jan 4, 2023, 3:54 am
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Just a reminder to everyone that BA’s plans on equipment are notoriously unreliable not to say fickle.
A 78X planned on your February trip has a good 20% chance of changing by the time you fly;
A 78X planned on your May trip has a good 50% chance of changing by the time you fly.
ive had three of my trips with planned 78X in 2022 and not a single one of them held. Other equipment also changes as Ba reworks offer and rotations and FT is full of endless “I booked this trip because it was CS and now it’s been substituted for a plane with all CW, what can I do?” (Answer: nothing)
if you are checking this thread out of interest and curiosity, that’s great. If you are checking it in order to plan what trips to book in several months from now assuming the equipment will stick, you are merely a fool…
A 78X planned on your February trip has a good 20% chance of changing by the time you fly;
A 78X planned on your May trip has a good 50% chance of changing by the time you fly.
ive had three of my trips with planned 78X in 2022 and not a single one of them held. Other equipment also changes as Ba reworks offer and rotations and FT is full of endless “I booked this trip because it was CS and now it’s been substituted for a plane with all CW, what can I do?” (Answer: nothing)
if you are checking this thread out of interest and curiosity, that’s great. If you are checking it in order to plan what trips to book in several months from now assuming the equipment will stick, you are merely a fool…
Jan 4, 2023, 8:36 am
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Jan 4, 2023, 8:50 am
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Just a reminder to everyone that BA’s plans on equipment are notoriously unreliable not to say fickle.
A 78X planned on your February trip has a good 20% chance of changing by the time you fly;
A 78X planned on your May trip has a good 50% chance of changing by the time you fly.
ive had three of my trips with planned 78X in 2022 and not a single one of them held. Other equipment also changes as Ba reworks offer and rotations and FT is full of endless “I booked this trip because it was CS and now it’s been substituted for a plane with all CW, what can I do?” (Answer: nothing)
if you are checking this thread out of interest and curiosity, that’s great. If you are checking it in order to plan what trips to book in several months from now assuming the equipment will stick, you are merely a fool…
A 78X planned on your February trip has a good 20% chance of changing by the time you fly;
A 78X planned on your May trip has a good 50% chance of changing by the time you fly.
ive had three of my trips with planned 78X in 2022 and not a single one of them held. Other equipment also changes as Ba reworks offer and rotations and FT is full of endless “I booked this trip because it was CS and now it’s been substituted for a plane with all CW, what can I do?” (Answer: nothing)
if you are checking this thread out of interest and curiosity, that’s great. If you are checking it in order to plan what trips to book in several months from now assuming the equipment will stick, you are merely a fool…
Jan 4, 2023, 9:17 am
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None of the 77Es were delivered with bunks, the RR ones had a third party module installed later as the routes they were used on spread further afield to take advantage of their capabilities.
I guess if the 78X had it's legs extended and there was a business case there would crew rest area retrofit available if they were willing to splash the cash.
I guess if the 78X had it's legs extended and there was a business case there would crew rest area retrofit available if they were willing to splash the cash.
Jan 4, 2023, 9:33 am
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You are quite right 13901, the 787-10 has no bunks for cabin crew and SEA/PDX/DFW/MIA are as far as they go. Cabin Crew require flat rest on LAX/SFO. Even when the 781 does the former routes it can be a challenge, as even a slight delay means either looking to recrew as originals have timed out before they have even started or the use of commanders discretion which is not always guaranteed. There have been occasions recently where the F cabin has been emptied of commercial passengers in order to provide the required rest area for CC.
When the 781 was ordered, the company stated that they would be used on east coast and ME routes, hence having no bunks was not an issue.
When the 781 was ordered, the company stated that they would be used on east coast and ME routes, hence having no bunks was not an issue.
I think there’s a bit of testing the water with BA, using them on a few different routes to see where they fit best. Sometimes it works out well, other times it doesn’t and they switch it again. Tbh I’d probably do the same.
Jan 5, 2023, 1:45 am
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LHR-MLE would not work on 787-10, cabin crew require horizontal rest on this service, so bunk areas is required.
Jan 5, 2023, 4:55 am
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Family summer holiday booked for August/September 2023 in CW. At one point we had B787-10 on both the outbound to Miami and return from Atlanta. Currently we have A380 out and B777-200 (with CS) back. We await further changes over the coming months........