http....whatever

So... I can delete all 5 redemption group members and keep a clean redemption list but then when I add back one member I need to get paid (assume I'm not DM...)?

And it's interesting to limit the change to 3 for GR....

Also.... Price CUT not increase???? Is this a real news from CX?

 

ok... Same for AM as GR...

http...whatever as well

 

Got an email from MPC today (link as below) and looks like the service fee is reduced from USD 90 to 50.

Not sure if i interpret this right. Currently I have used up all spaces on my nominee list. Assume I drop 3 names (Amy, Ben and Calvin) out and when I register new nominees later, will i still be charged the service fee?
Or if I decide to add Ben back to my nominee list, will I need to pay the service fee. Anyone who is able to shed some light? Thanks
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/frequent-flyers/offers-and-updates/offers-and-updates/updates-details/Asia-Miles-Redemption-Group-terms-and-conditions-updates-for-Marco-Polo-Club-members.html?cm_mmc=ESUM-CX-_-ES00NE1604-19JAN16-_-10981-_-CXEP&emid=Rx+8XebZpvVh8dAtj6cZLuHd/TvSsIQSkuhBcbfBC3c=

 

Asia Miles:

https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/abou...000ad21c39RCRD

Updated Redemption Group terms and conditions

Asia Miles regularly reviews its programme’s terms and conditions to better align with members’ behaviour. With effect on 25 February 2016, the Redemption Group terms and conditions will be updated to better serve and protect members’ requirements and interests in flight award redemption.

Members may continue to add their initial five nominees (who can be Asia Miles members or non-members) to their Redemption Group for free. Thereafter, the number of nominee changes under the terms and conditions update will be revised to three nominees per membership year with an adjusted service fee of USD 50 (online) or USD 75 (other channels) be applied to replacing each existing Nominee or registering each new Nominee to replace the nominee deleted previously. You may also update a nominee's membership number or title, or delete existing nominees anytime for free.

The terms and conditions update has taken into consideration of existing members’ average Redemption Group size and frequency of change. Our recent detailed analysis of members' behaviour indicates that only a small fraction of members utilises their Redemption Group, and on average each member has two nominees only. Overall impact to members is expected to be minimal.

The yearly nominee change entitlement will automatically reset at the start of each membership year, which is 12 months from the date of enrolment, or its subsequent automatic renewal.

If you wish to update your Redemption Group, simply click "Update Your Profile" after logging into your account, then select "Change Your Redemption Group" and follow the instructions accordingly.

Marco Polo:

Came with the "Your Account Summary for January 2016" email

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...b-members.html




Don't know what's going to happen to AMs yet but can assume it'd be at least as bad as GR.

 

Same as GR (our post overlapped )

 

Asia Miles T&C update added.

Included in "Member's Updates" page, not notified by email to members yet. Yes identical to GR.

 

I clarified how the new rules work with a Tsuen Wan CS who spoke to her supervisor

If you are AM/GR and clear your list on or before 24 Feb
The five spaces on your list will be considered "Initial" on 25 Feb (akin to grandfathering)
You can fill them in partially or in one go on or after 25 Feb without charge

After the initial five spaces have been expended
You can still do three amendments per membership year (even on 26 Feb 16) for US$50 per space

AM/GR can process three amendments per membership year.

(MPO changed their position to withdraw grandfathering of 25/2 blank places, please see post #15 for their newest "lifetime" position)

 

How can we clear the list? Is there such an option on the AM website?

 

And according to current rules there is a fee to clear the list?

 

Yes of course https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/acco...ile/nomination

Currently US$90 for the whole list, unrestricted changes per year.

 

Yes. You'll be charged USD90 now. You'll be charged USD150 on or after 25 Feb

If he's been previously deleted, yes.

 

The current unpublished benefit for DMs is one free clearing of the list per year. I guess this will be gone...

 

OT: I really do wish they reduce or remove the cost to transfer miles...

 

Which frequent flyer program allows for that?! Program operators earn heaps from members failing to accumulate sufficient miles/points to redeem rewards before expiry/program termination (through insolvency or otherwise).

 

I have to withdraw the above. I've been given bad advice.

This afternoon I was shown an email excerpt by a colleague which seems to suggest once a member has utilised a space, it will not be grandfathered even if the member's list was cleared in its entirety on 24 Feb.

I called MPO:

"On 22/1 I was told if I clear redemption list on 24/2, my spaces will be grandfathered i.e. I'm exempt from paying US$50 to fill each space up again first time. Now a colleague is telling me I'm wrong, and showing me an email excerpt to make his point. Who's right?"

[ ] from Tsuen Wan: "He's right. I do apologise, we did say empty spaces will be grandfathered when we announced the changes, however we consulted internally and reversed our position after the consultation. Your colleague is right - if you've used all five spaces previously in your membership lifetime (I have) then you have to pay US$50 for each name you add to your redemption list on or after 25/2 even if you've paid US$90 to clear the list on 24/2."