Not a big enough price -- the very existence of TSA proves that. We should have had our own Nuremberg Trials and hangings over the Japanese internments.

Let's not Omni this thread. If the Germans had treated their "interments" like we did the Japanese interments there would not have been any hangings.

Oh gawd, we have enough idiots other here as it is trying to screw down our freedoms!

oldjonesy-

Welcome to FlyerTalk :)

He doesn't have to work at the airport, he can go to Australia Zoo as a croc feeder. :)

Fix it for ya!:p

I was trying to be nice, Dawg. :D

Well, Ron, given your attitude towards Constitutional Rights, I suspect you of being a terrorist.

So you find it acceptable for you not to be allowed into the secure area of airports, right? Guess you'll have to find another job.

I'm sure that makes sense to you mate but... bit hard to work out what's going on in your mind there...

Think about it. It's not that hard. Innocent until proven guilty mean anything to you? To traitors and other anti-Americans it might not make sense.

It made sense to me as well. I'll explain.

Boggie Dog asked:
Ron responded by saying that he supports blacklisting some people, namely "suspected terrorists".
Seth pointed out that Ron is a suspected terrorist, asked Ron to confirm that he believes its acceptable for us to prohibit "suspected terrorists" (e.g., Ron) from entering the secure areas of airports, and reminded Ron that this would prevent him from doing his job:
In my opinion, the only special treatment we should give people who we have good reason to suspect of having committed acts of terrorism is a trial, and possibly brief imprisonment or strict supervision between the time of the accusation being made and the time of the trial. We should not indefinitely restrict people's freedom of movement based on suspicion of previous wrongdoing, much less on suspicion of intent to do wrong in the future. Restricting their movement based on the fact that someone anonymously blacklisted them is unconscionable.

In the United States, we're not supposed to punish people based on accusations, but that's just what Ron advocates. The rule of law, not the rule of men, is fundamental to our freedom. TSA should get past the idea of hassling people or completely barring them from air travel because someone secretly added them to a blacklist, and simply ensure that no one carries weapons, explosives, or incendiaries onto airplanes.

I totally agree. If the government believes that someone has committed a crime, then that person should be arrested and tried for it. Restricting people's travel based on what the government thinks they might be planning to do in the future is reminiscent of "thought crime" in Orwell's 1984.

Bruce

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^^ TSA is increasingly becoming a government agency that has no respect for the Constitution and the rule of law. Their attitude is dangerous, and it's time for Congress - or the Courts - to do something about it.

Given the current mood of the congress to engage in actions that further bring the populace under control of government I think we may be pushing rope when hoping for correction within DHS/TSA.