Delta orders 20 A350-1000
Jan 13, 2024, 7:52 am
#46
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I thought for sure that Delta would order more A339s when the announced the latest order this week.
Jan 13, 2024, 11:21 am
#47
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NWA was the B787 North America Launch airline for Boeing and after the merger Delta CANCELED the order.
On a trip to NWA in Eagan around 2006/2007 I was given a NWA B787 engraved logo pen made with the carbon fiber used on the B787. There are still some of these NWA carbon fiber pens being sold on ebay as collectables if anybody needs one.
Its kind of funny that they gave out these pens and never took delivery of any B787's.
RC
On a trip to NWA in Eagan around 2006/2007 I was given a NWA B787 engraved logo pen made with the carbon fiber used on the B787. There are still some of these NWA carbon fiber pens being sold on ebay as collectables if anybody needs one.
Its kind of funny that they gave out these pens and never took delivery of any B787's.
RC
Jan 13, 2024, 3:55 pm
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Jan 14, 2024, 8:06 am
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I think you are adding the newer 767-400’s into that number. They are planned to be around to at least 2030 and are quite efficient. There are currently around 38 767-300’s actually flying and they are slowly parking them. I think 5 get parked in 2024.
Jan 14, 2024, 11:20 am
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it was stated on todays earnings call that some of the 350-1000's will be used for international expansion.
I take expansion to mean routes that DL does not currently fly.
My guesses.
LAX or SEA to SIN. They have to bring SIN back.
JFK to BOM or DEL
Possibly a return on ATL to DXB?
I take expansion to mean routes that DL does not currently fly.
My guesses.
LAX or SEA to SIN. They have to bring SIN back.
JFK to BOM or DEL
Possibly a return on ATL to DXB?
Jan 14, 2024, 2:40 pm
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The Delta now states the A350-1000 order has been done. https://simpleflying.com/delta-air-l...premium-sales/ ......................20 of them.
Jan 14, 2024, 2:52 pm
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The Delta now states the A350-1000 order has been done. https://simpleflying.com/delta-air-l...premium-sales/ ......................20 of them.
Jan 14, 2024, 6:54 pm
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It’s a warmed over 40 year old design that is heavy and not that great of an improvement over the A330-300. In fact on flights under 2000 miles it will burn more fuel. Add in the bleed air issues and compressor stall restriction for crosswind takeoffs and it suffers significant takeoff performance issues. The bleed issue is a big problem at SLC and the crosswind issue can pop up anywhere.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On August 18, 2022, the FAA issued Emergency AD 2022–18–51 for all Airbus SAS Model A330–841 and –941 airplanes. Emergency AD 2022–18–51 was prompted by MCAI originated by EASA, which is the Technical Agent for the Member States of the European Union. EASA issued EASA Emergency AD 2022–0170–E, dated August 17, 2022 (EASA Emergency AD 2022–0170–E), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system HPVs, likely due to HPV clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency AD 2022–18–51 required revising the existing AFM to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the A330 MMEL or amending the existing FAA-approved operator's MEL; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The FAA issued Emergency AD 2022–18–51 to address a leaking HPV, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (PRV), which is installed downstream from the HPV, to high pressure, possibly damaging the PRV itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the PRV, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On August 18, 2022, the FAA issued Emergency AD 2022–18–51 for all Airbus SAS Model A330–841 and –941 airplanes. Emergency AD 2022–18–51 was prompted by MCAI originated by EASA, which is the Technical Agent for the Member States of the European Union. EASA issued EASA Emergency AD 2022–0170–E, dated August 17, 2022 (EASA Emergency AD 2022–0170–E), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system HPVs, likely due to HPV clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency AD 2022–18–51 required revising the existing AFM to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the A330 MMEL or amending the existing FAA-approved operator's MEL; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The FAA issued Emergency AD 2022–18–51 to address a leaking HPV, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (PRV), which is installed downstream from the HPV, to high pressure, possibly damaging the PRV itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the PRV, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.
Last edited by Jeff767; Jan 14, 2024 at 7:14 pm
Jan 14, 2024, 7:50 pm
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its a warmed over 40 year old design that is heavy and not that great of an improvement over the a330-300. In fact on flights under 2000 miles it will burn more fuel. Add in the bleed air issues and compressor stall restriction for crosswind takeoffs and it suffers significant takeoff performance issues. The bleed issue is a big problem at slc and the crosswind issue can pop up anywhere.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On august 18, 2022, the faa issued emergency ad 20221851 for all airbus sas model a330841 and 941 airplanes. Emergency ad 20221851 was prompted by mcai originated by easa, which is the technical agent for the member states of the european union. Easa issued easa emergency ad 20220170e, dated august 17, 2022 (easa emergency ad 20220170e), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system hpvs, likely due to hpv clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency ad 20221851 required revising the existing afm to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the a330 mmel or amending the existing faa-approved operator's mel; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The faa issued emergency ad 20221851 to address a leaking hpv, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (prv), which is installed downstream from the hpv, to high pressure, possibly damaging the prv itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the prv, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On august 18, 2022, the faa issued emergency ad 20221851 for all airbus sas model a330841 and 941 airplanes. Emergency ad 20221851 was prompted by mcai originated by easa, which is the technical agent for the member states of the european union. Easa issued easa emergency ad 20220170e, dated august 17, 2022 (easa emergency ad 20220170e), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system hpvs, likely due to hpv clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency ad 20221851 required revising the existing afm to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the a330 mmel or amending the existing faa-approved operator's mel; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The faa issued emergency ad 20221851 to address a leaking hpv, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (prv), which is installed downstream from the hpv, to high pressure, possibly damaging the prv itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the prv, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.
Jan 14, 2024, 7:57 pm
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“I thought for sure that Delta would order more A339’s when the announced the latest order this week.”
Jan 14, 2024, 9:22 pm
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Its a warmed over 40 year old design that is heavy and not that great of an improvement over the A330-300. In fact on flights under 2000 miles it will burn more fuel. Add in the bleed air issues and compressor stall restriction for crosswind takeoffs and it suffers significant takeoff performance issues. The bleed issue is a big problem at SLC and the crosswind issue can pop up anywhere.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On August 18, 2022, the FAA issued Emergency AD 20221851 for all Airbus SAS Model A330841 and 941 airplanes. Emergency AD 20221851 was prompted by MCAI originated by EASA, which is the Technical Agent for the Member States of the European Union. EASA issued EASA Emergency AD 20220170E, dated August 17, 2022 (EASA Emergency AD 20220170E), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system HPVs, likely due to HPV clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency AD 20221851 required revising the existing AFM to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the A330 MMEL or amending the existing FAA-approved operator's MEL; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The FAA issued Emergency AD 20221851 to address a leaking HPV, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (PRV), which is installed downstream from the HPV, to high pressure, possibly damaging the PRV itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the PRV, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.
Here is a summary of the bleed problem. So far no fix other than limiting takeoff bleed configurations which effects maximum thrust.
On August 18, 2022, the FAA issued Emergency AD 20221851 for all Airbus SAS Model A330841 and 941 airplanes. Emergency AD 20221851 was prompted by MCAI originated by EASA, which is the Technical Agent for the Member States of the European Union. EASA issued EASA Emergency AD 20220170E, dated August 17, 2022 (EASA Emergency AD 20220170E), to correct an unsafe condition identified as leaking bleed system HPVs, likely due to HPV clip failure and sealing ring damage.
Emergency AD 20221851 required revising the existing AFM to incorporate additional limitations prohibiting takeoff for certain airplane configurations; specified airplane dispatch restrictions using certain provisions of the A330 MMEL or amending the existing FAA-approved operator's MEL; and required obtaining and accomplishing instructions following certain maintenance messages. The FAA issued Emergency AD 20221851 to address a leaking HPV, which may expose the pressure regulating valve (PRV), which is installed downstream from the HPV, to high pressure, possibly damaging the PRV itself and preventing its closure. The unsafe condition, if not addressed, could result in high pressure and temperatures in the duct downstream from the PRV, with possible duct burst, damage to several systems, and consequent loss of control of the airplane.