AI overflying Russia
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AI overflying Russia
This unscheduled landing caught my eye: https://apple.news/AMFdI6JvjRh2CK2ZQzrIKAw . According to the article, this is the second such unscheduled visit to Russia in a little over a year. Politics aside… I am guessing that if one of these unscheduled landings results in a need for parts and maintenance, AI may be SOL, seeing as Russia is under embargo and Russian airlines have been cannibalizing their own aircraft for parts. That poses an interesting risk for AI and any other airline overflying Russia these days: Their airplane may get stuck there until the embargo is lifted, and by then it will likely be scrap.
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Many emergency landings happen in airfields where parts aren't readily available. If that's the case the airline usually flies the parts there on their own or partner aircraft.
If flying in parts to fix your own plane is against US sanctions... then India should ignore those just as they have the rest of the sanctions against Russia.
If flying in parts to fix your own plane is against US sanctions... then India should ignore those just as they have the rest of the sanctions against Russia.
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Another airline to cross off my list. No way I as an American would I want to risk being stuck in the middle of Russia! The only thing worse would be Iran.
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AI never stopped using the polar route, they also have service to Moscow. If an aircraft goes AOG in Russia, Iran, North Korea et al the relevant US department issues a sanctions waiver to allow the required parts & tools to be flown into the airport so the aircraft can be fixed and flown out. American citizens are usually not inconvienienced in any way during such incidents, this is covered by conventions for sea/air pax in distress.
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Like any serious airline, AI had a diversion plan in place and the pax have been handled well so far. The relief crew and technicians are also on their way from BOM on AI 1179:
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIC1179/3638af96
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com.../111849890.cms
https://www.flightradar24.com/AIC1179/3638af96
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com.../111849890.cms
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As usual some passengers are dumb. I read that one lady was complaining that her medications and clothes were in the checked baggage,
Some are complaining that they are not in a hotel. Be thankful that the Pilots exercised proper caution and landed safely.
Today, thousands of people are on the fllor at airports all over the world due to the system going down.
A relief flight from India landed at KJA and is 2.5 hours in the journey to SFO at 19:30 UTC.
Maybe the flight may get further delayed if the lady without her medication has a problem.
Some are complaining that they are not in a hotel. Be thankful that the Pilots exercised proper caution and landed safely.
Today, thousands of people are on the fllor at airports all over the world due to the system going down.
A relief flight from India landed at KJA and is 2.5 hours in the journey to SFO at 19:30 UTC.
Maybe the flight may get further delayed if the lady without her medication has a problem.
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As usual some passengers are dumb. I read that one lady was complaining that her medications and clothes were in the checked baggage,
Some are complaining that they are not in a hotel. Be thankful that the Pilots exercised proper caution and landed safely.
Today, thousands of people are on the fllor at airports all over the world due to the system going down.
A relief flight from India landed at KJA and is 2.5 hours in the journey to SFO at 19:30 UTC.
Maybe the flight may get further delayed if the lady without her medication has a problem.
Some are complaining that they are not in a hotel. Be thankful that the Pilots exercised proper caution and landed safely.
Today, thousands of people are on the fllor at airports all over the world due to the system going down.
A relief flight from India landed at KJA and is 2.5 hours in the journey to SFO at 19:30 UTC.
Maybe the flight may get further delayed if the lady without her medication has a problem.
Was flying back to DEL yesterday from a small airport & everything was delayed because of the Microsoft/CrowdStrike issue. There were a bunch of passengers taking out their frustrations on the airport staff for the delay & 2 in particular were extremely obnoxious. There was nothing anyone could do but that didn't stop these 2 passengers from going on & on for hours. The flight finally arrived & left 4 hours late & I made it back home safe & sound.
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I think this was finally a win for AI... they handled the situation very well.. .both the logistics and customer experience. Especially since the last time their plane had an SFO plane had an emergency landing in Russia. Wonder if this was the same aircraft!
Full refunds plus (???) flight vouchers for passengers... finally something learned from SQ... on what's bare minimum customer treatment.
Full refunds plus (???) flight vouchers for passengers... finally something learned from SQ... on what's bare minimum customer treatment.
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It is not a win for the passengers, who were left stranded in the terminal without luggage due to a faulty smoke detector. I would not consider it a win to receive a refund + a tiny voucher after this type of experience.
Anybody who has half a brain will instead take a carrier that does not overfly Russia with shoddy planes. I'd rather have a longer flight than be subject to this hell.
Anybody who has half a brain will instead take a carrier that does not overfly Russia with shoddy planes. I'd rather have a longer flight than be subject to this hell.
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As for shoddy planes... I'm far more concerned about the maintenance of planes whose tires fall off as they are taking off, or whose engines catch fire every few weeks... or who have a software issue one day and cannot get up and running for the next 2 months. Those things are a little more worrisome than a faulty smoke detector.
That is the advantage of being a full brain... you can choose those flights.
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It is not a win for the passengers, who were left stranded in the terminal without luggage due to a faulty smoke detector. I would not consider it a win to receive a refund + a tiny voucher after this type of experience.
Anybody who has half a brain will instead take a carrier that does not overfly Russia with shoddy planes. I'd rather have a longer flight than be subject to this hell.
Anybody who has half a brain will instead take a carrier that does not overfly Russia with shoddy planes. I'd rather have a longer flight than be subject to this hell.