Ambassador Benefits on a Travelocity Booking?
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Ambassador Benefits on a Travelocity Booking?
I've searched and can't find the answer to whether I would be entitled to Ambassador benefits on a Travelocity booking. I understand that I would not get points, but want to know specifically about the benefits. I want to use Travelocity because I have loads of Travelocity points I can redeem. I emailed the next hotel I'm considering (Bali Intercontinental) and they said I would not receive Amabassador benefits because Travelocity is an "agent". Also sent an email to the Ambassador Service Center and they said I would get Amb. benefits but no points. Wondering if the hotel just misunderstood what I was asking. Does anybody have examples of rooms booked through Travelocity and receiving Amb. beneifts on their stay? Thanks.
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Side note, if Travelocity is paying a decent rate (for your points), you could even get points.
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And send the hotel's reply to the Ambassador people so they know the property is not following the rules.
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Didn't realize that before. Checked the T&C and Chinatrvl is right. I had passed some very good rate offered by agents thinking that my stay would not get upgraded.
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You would not believe that some hotel just don't want to have Ambassadors / Royal Ambassadors to stay at their hotel because they think that this program costs them arms and legs.
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So you be the judge of my net value to individual properties.
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The T&Cs say: (my bold)
Limits on Points for Stays. Points are not issued for stays at the following reduced room rates (Non-Qualifying Room Rates; Non-Qualifying Stay): net wholesale individual and group rate, certain package rates, employee discount rate, friends and family rate, crew rate, special discounted contract rates, seasonal worker/crew rate, 50% travel club discount rate, travel industry discount rate, distressed passenger rate, Priority Club Reward Nights/Airline Hotel Reward rate, most rates booked through most third party web sites, complimentary hotel stays and any other rates not defined as a Qualifying Room Rate.
Last edited by BA1A; Aug 4, 2010 at 9:00 am
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Benefits I agree with you but points The T&Cs say: (my bold)
Limits on Points for Stays. Points are not issued for stays at the following reduced room rates (Non-Qualifying Room Rates; Non-Qualifying Stay): net wholesale individual and group rate, certain package rates, employee discount rate, friends and family rate, crew rate, special discounted contract rates, seasonal worker/crew rate, 50% travel club discount rate, travel industry discount rate, distressed passenger rate, Priority Club Reward Nights/Airline Hotel Reward rate, most rates booked through most third party web sites, complimentary hotel stays and any other rates not defined as a Qualifying Room Rate.
Limits on Points for Stays. Points are not issued for stays at the following reduced room rates (Non-Qualifying Room Rates; Non-Qualifying Stay): net wholesale individual and group rate, certain package rates, employee discount rate, friends and family rate, crew rate, special discounted contract rates, seasonal worker/crew rate, 50% travel club discount rate, travel industry discount rate, distressed passenger rate, Priority Club Reward Nights/Airline Hotel Reward rate, most rates booked through most third party web sites, complimentary hotel stays and any other rates not defined as a Qualifying Room Rate.
Eligible Charges Worldwide include the following Qualifying Room Rates paid for hotel room nights: including the hotel’s Advanced Purchase Rate, Best Flexible Rate, worldwide sales negotiated rate, national/regional/local government rate and specified leisure rates as confirmed by IHG's HOLIDEX® Plus reservation systems. Points will be awarded for Qualifying Room Rates booked through IHG central reservation offices, IHG web sites, travel agents or directly at the hotel.
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Hopefully the OP will report back and let us know how they got on, what benefits they did get in the end and whether the rate qualified for points or not.
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Thanks everyone for the information. I called up the ASC last night just to make sure I was understanding it correctly. They again confirmed that I would get benefits, but no PC points (which is fine with me). They suggested to me that I advise the hotel of the T & C that state that the hotel can only deny benefits on reward stays.
Haven't booked yet and probably won't for a few weeks, but wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly due to the different responses from the ASC and the hotel. If the hotel does try to deny benefits, I will know I can push back with the T & Cs and the ASC.
Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it.
Haven't booked yet and probably won't for a few weeks, but wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly due to the different responses from the ASC and the hotel. If the hotel does try to deny benefits, I will know I can push back with the T & Cs and the ASC.
Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it.
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I do not find any lanuage in the T&C to that the RA benefits are dependent on the rate you book (with the exception on airline crew on airline rates).
When it comes to points rates via a travel agent are good for points. Beside that:
I made the experience that rooms booked via a webside that sell the original IHG rates are good for points (they act like a travel agent) whereas websites that sell special rates (like Expedia Special prepaid rates) eg. do not score points. I do not recollect any case where I have paid my bill on checkout and did not receive points.
When it comes to points rates via a travel agent are good for points. Beside that:
Limits on Points for Stays. Points are not issued for stays at the following reduced room rates (Non-Qualifying Room Rates; Non-Qualifying Stay): net wholesale individual and group rate, certain package rates, employee discount rate, friends and family rate, crew rate, special discounted contract rates, seasonal worker/crew rate, 50% travel club discount rate, travel industry discount rate, distressed passenger rate, Priority Club Reward Nights/Airline Hotel Reward rate, most rates booked through most third party web sites, complimentary hotel stays and any other rates not defined as a Qualifying Room Rate.
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I do not find any lanuage in the T&C to that the RA benefits are dependent on the rate you book (with the exception on airline crew on airline rates).
When it comes to points rates via a travel agent are good for points. Beside that:
I made the experience that rooms booked via a webside that sell the original IHG rates are good for points (they act like a travel agent) whereas websites that sell special rates (like Expedia Special prepaid rates) eg. do not score points. I do not recollect any case where I have paid my bill on checkout and did not receive points.
When it comes to points rates via a travel agent are good for points. Beside that:
I made the experience that rooms booked via a webside that sell the original IHG rates are good for points (they act like a travel agent) whereas websites that sell special rates (like Expedia Special prepaid rates) eg. do not score points. I do not recollect any case where I have paid my bill on checkout and did not receive points.