Surge2009

Marriott already has this figured out. The BRG policy will mimic that of the Design Hotels. BRG claims can't be made against rates found on the Design Hotel's websites, however they can be made against 3rd party OTA's. The Marriott BRG policy on MGM hotels will follow that.

This isn't even something we'll need to worry about. MGM can't merge separate reservations made from their own booking channels, let alone those from 3rd parties, so it's a non issue. The only thing their system allows is to take the security deposit/hold from one night and transfer it to another reservation (if an additional night is added to an existing reservation that was made through an MGM booking channel only. Marriott or 3rd parties are excluded). Marriott's been quite clear that nights and points earning can only be made from bookings made from their own channels in which they receive the booking commission. Marriott wont honor additional nights for credit that were extended at the front desk of an MGM hotel. Everything is going to require a Marriott confirmation number to be able to get credits. .

DallasEsq

Who pays the BRG compensation in that case?

Surge2009

The hotels do. The agreement Marriott has with Design (and I assume MGM) is that they must offer Marriott the lowest available rates that they'd offer any other OTA. If they break this agreement, then the BRG comes into play.

DallasEsq

You don't think MGM would have any objection to monitoring third party rates so that Marriott can fulfill a guarantee to it's loyalty members? I don't have any inside info but I can't imagine MGM would be willing to do this when they don't have a BRG themselves.

worldwidedreamer

I'm a little confused. Which credit card provides 15 complimentary stays? I'm only aware of cards that provide complimentary elite qualifying nights.

yule_boy

I just checked and MGM used to have their own BRG program but discontinued it in August 2022. I agree with DallasEsq that they won't want to pay penalties to Marriott for successful BRG claims. I think all the MGM hotels will likely be exempt from any BRG at Marriott but time will tell.

SPN Lifer

​​Clearly, the "complimentary 15 nights" to which you responded refers to complimentary Elite Qualifying Nights (EQN) and not to complimentary "stays" or Free Night Awards (FNA).

Surge2009

Absolutely not. They agreed to this marketing partnership and all the rules associated with it. Marriott wasn't going to get into bed with MGM unless they were giving them access to the lowest rates available amongst all OTA's (minus MGM's own booking channels). This partnership is worth upwards of $70M to MGM - they're going to make sure they're fully compliant. And also keep in mind, the discount off the room for a successful BRG will be a measly 25% if a lower rate is found. MGM often lowers their standard rate by 30% as a bonus to their MGM Rewards Members during their standard sales (like they're doing now). They could care less if they have to eat that 25% discount on a $45 room rate (Resort Fee of course, not part of the equation so that won't be reduced).

AAORD82

I got this from my ambassador, although it seems to be slightly contradictory regarding getting credit with MGM before things go live on the Marriott site.

"The rest of the properties will be progressively added in our system starting with New York - New York Hotel & Casino, MGM Collection. By the end of the first quarter of this year, is expected to have all MGM Collection property available for booking.

Meanwhile, if you wish to make a reservation at any of these properties, you can contact MGM resorts, and make the reservation with them, and at the time of the Check-In you can provide your Marriott Bonvoy Number to the front desk to earn points and elite nights from your stay."

iknowthings

MGM Collection Terms and Conditions are available today.

https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/ter...-collection.mi

Additionally, the BRG Terms and Conditions have been updated to include MGM Collection under brands that do not participate.

AJNEDC

Sorry. Exactly what you typed is what I meant to state.

bjdj94

And it gets worse. New York-New York is bookable. Booking through Marriott for upcoming weekend (Feb 2-5) is $626.99. Booking through MGM while logged in is $554.37. The difference is because MGM is giving everyone with an MGM account a 15% discount.

DallasEsq

Well, if you're Platinum and above you're losing the $45 in f&b credit by booking with MGM, or 1,000 whole points. And the promotional 2PM check-out, if it's available

bjdj94

$45 total, but Food & Beverage credit doesn't accrue, so it's $15/day at select outlets. Not valid for in-room dining or mini-bar purchases.

Unless you really need elite nights or you're Ambassador, I don't see a reason to book through Marriott.

InFlightJay

Looks like they locked down loopholes.

"Members who hold membership in both Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program and MGM Rewards Program can choose to receive the benefits of, and receive earnings from Qualifying Charges from either program, but cannot concurrently receive the benefits of, nor receive earnings from Qualifying Rates and Qualifying Charges to both. Marriott Bonvoy and the MGM Rewards Program are two separate loyalty programs; therefore, accounts may not be merged."

As a current MGM Gold booking price -

March 3-7th NYNY stay is $490 (removing resort fee & Parking) including it is $658 (parking not included)

Marriott Titanium Price is $712 (resort fee included & Parking not included)

Welp, Vegas becomes much more expensive for us Titaniums. Won't ever get to MGM Gold because the benefits are not worth it.