Aug 24, 2018, 11:27 am
Last edit by: rylan
Huge thanks to Horace for this list (which is much simpler to understand than Marriott's T&Cs!)
Daily Breakfast for Platinum Elite and Above
Six categories:
1. Breakfast for member + 1 in the lounge. If the hotel does not have a lounge or the lounge is closed, member can choose 750 points OR continental breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. A limited number of hotels provide 1,000 points each day the lounge is closed instead of a choice (Through June 30, 2024). Any of these benefits are in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift.
Autograph Collection (excluding resorts)
Courtyard (properties with a lounge only; Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands, Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, South America, the Middle East, and Africa only)
Delta* (excluding resorts)
JW Marriott (excluding resorts)
Marriott (excluding resorts)
Renaissance (excluding resorts)
* many Delta properties provide breakfast from an Elite Pantry as an alternative to a Signature Lounge, in which case the hotel does not need to provide breakfast for member + 1 the restaurant.
2. Breakfast in the hotel restaurant for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it).
Aloft
Autograph Collection (resorts only)
Delta (resorts only)
Four Points
The Luxury Collection
JW Marriott (resorts only)
Le Mridien
Marriott (resorts only)
Protea
Renaissance (resorts only)
St. Regis
Sheraton **
Tribute Portfolio
W Hotels
Westin **
** Marriott Vacation Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, and Westin Vacation Club properties are not Marriott, Sheraton, and Westin hotels/resorts.
3. Breakfast in lounge for member + 1, if the hotel has a lounge. This is in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift, which could be breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. No alternative benefit if the lounge is closed.
Le Mridien (only at locations with a lounge)
Sheraton (only at locations with a lounge)
Westin (only at locations with a lounge)
4. Daily U.S. $10 F&B credit for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it). Can be applied toward breakfast or toward other F&B purchase in the hotel restaurant or bar. Does not accrue over multiple-night stay.
AC Hotels
Courtyard (locations without a lounge only, which means most locations)
MOXY ***
*** some MOXY property are more generous, providing full breakfasts to those who apply their F&B credits toward breakfast, with no additional charge
5. Breakfast for all guests included in room rate, regardless of status or membership
Element ****
Fairfield (except Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels) ****
Residence Inn (NO breakfast at Residence Inn New Orleans French Quarter/CBD)
SpringHill Suites
TownePlace Suites
**** very few exceptions; check official hotel website
6. No complimentary daily breakfast, even for Platinum Elite and Above
Design Hotels
Edition
Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels
Gaylord Hotels
Marriott Executive Apartments
Marriott Vacation Club / MVC Pulse / Grand Residences by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton / Ritz-Carlton Reserve / Ritz-Carlton Residence Club
Vistana / Sheraton Vacation Club / Westin Vacation Club
Note: This list does not identify specific properties that deviate from the published benefits. In some cases, exceptions are identified in the Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program Terms & Conditions or on specific property webpages. As of the July 1 ToC update, the list of exempt properties was significantly reduced to the following properties in the United States that do not provide free continental breakfast in the hotel restaurant in the event the Lounge is closed but do offer 1,000 Points in lieu of breakfast. These properties include:
Daily Breakfast for Platinum Elite and Above
Six categories:
1. Breakfast for member + 1 in the lounge. If the hotel does not have a lounge or the lounge is closed, member can choose 750 points OR continental breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. A limited number of hotels provide 1,000 points each day the lounge is closed instead of a choice (Through June 30, 2024). Any of these benefits are in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift.
Autograph Collection (excluding resorts)
Courtyard (properties with a lounge only; Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands, Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, South America, the Middle East, and Africa only)
Delta* (excluding resorts)
JW Marriott (excluding resorts)
Marriott (excluding resorts)
Renaissance (excluding resorts)
* many Delta properties provide breakfast from an Elite Pantry as an alternative to a Signature Lounge, in which case the hotel does not need to provide breakfast for member + 1 the restaurant.
2. Breakfast in the hotel restaurant for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it).
Aloft
Autograph Collection (resorts only)
Delta (resorts only)
Four Points
The Luxury Collection
JW Marriott (resorts only)
Le Mridien
Marriott (resorts only)
Protea
Renaissance (resorts only)
St. Regis
Sheraton **
Tribute Portfolio
W Hotels
Westin **
** Marriott Vacation Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, and Westin Vacation Club properties are not Marriott, Sheraton, and Westin hotels/resorts.
3. Breakfast in lounge for member + 1, if the hotel has a lounge. This is in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift, which could be breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. No alternative benefit if the lounge is closed.
Le Mridien (only at locations with a lounge)
Sheraton (only at locations with a lounge)
Westin (only at locations with a lounge)
4. Daily U.S. $10 F&B credit for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it). Can be applied toward breakfast or toward other F&B purchase in the hotel restaurant or bar. Does not accrue over multiple-night stay.
AC Hotels
Courtyard (locations without a lounge only, which means most locations)
MOXY ***
*** some MOXY property are more generous, providing full breakfasts to those who apply their F&B credits toward breakfast, with no additional charge
5. Breakfast for all guests included in room rate, regardless of status or membership
Element ****
Fairfield (except Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels) ****
Residence Inn (NO breakfast at Residence Inn New Orleans French Quarter/CBD)
SpringHill Suites
TownePlace Suites
**** very few exceptions; check official hotel website
6. No complimentary daily breakfast, even for Platinum Elite and Above
Design Hotels
Edition
Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels
Gaylord Hotels
Marriott Executive Apartments
Marriott Vacation Club / MVC Pulse / Grand Residences by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton / Ritz-Carlton Reserve / Ritz-Carlton Residence Club
Vistana / Sheraton Vacation Club / Westin Vacation Club
Note: This list does not identify specific properties that deviate from the published benefits. In some cases, exceptions are identified in the Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program Terms & Conditions or on specific property webpages. As of the July 1 ToC update, the list of exempt properties was significantly reduced to the following properties in the United States that do not provide free continental breakfast in the hotel restaurant in the event the Lounge is closed but do offer 1,000 Points in lieu of breakfast. These properties include:
- Chicago Marriott Downtown Magnificent Mile
- JW Marriott San Francisco Union Square
- Renaissance Chicago Downtown Hotel
- Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina
FAQ : Marriott's "breakfast offering" explained, by brand and by Bonvoy elite level
Apr 21, 2018 | 10:16 am
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FAQ : Marriott's "breakfast offering" explained, by brand and by Bonvoy elite level
Gary Leff has a useful guide to the "breakfast offering" benefit for eligible elites in the new, unified Marriott program:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...kfast-benefit/
Here are some key points:
Leff is also reporting that resort-designated Marriott, J.W. Marriott, Autograph Collection, Renaissance and Delta properties will offer a check-in choice between --
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...kfast-benefit/
Here are some key points:
The new Marriott program is going to require the same hotels that were required under the Starwood program to offer lounge access to continue to do so. And the same hotels that offered lounge access above and beyond the terms of the program under Starwood can continue to do so under Marriott. [emphasis added by me]
While “Protea will offer breakfast in the restaurant” there will be food and beverage vouchers at Courtyard, AC Hotels by Marriott, and Moxy hotels.
- 1,000 points (per stay) or a daily restaurant breakfast in North America and Europe.
- 1,000 points (per stay), a daily restaurant breakfast, or a food-and-beverage amenity in the Middle East and Africa, Asia, the Pacific and Latin America.
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Apr 21, 2018 | 10:42 am
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Leff is also reporting that resort-designated Marriott, J.W. Marriott, Autograph Collection, Renaissance and Delta properties will offer a check-in choice between --
- 1,000 points (per stay) or a daily restaurant breakfast in North America and Europe.
- 1,000 points (per stay) or a daily restaurant breakfast in the Middle East and Africa, Asia, the Pacific and Latin America.
- 1,000 points (per stay) or a daily restaurant breakfast or an F&B amenity in the Middle East and Africa, Asia, the Pacific and Latin America.
Apr 21, 2018 | 10:51 am
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Leff didn't post his source. I presume the check-in choice includes legacy Starwood properties, but that's not how he phrased it.
Apr 21, 2018 | 11:16 am
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It's still a little bit confusing.
- what about properties with Lounge closed during week-end ? Do they have to offer breakfast in restaurant in addition to welcome points ? Is it still going to be a list of hotels which could just give points instead of breakfast ?
- Courtyard / AC Hotel / Proxy ; will the voucher be actually enough to cover a continental breakfast for two ? Otherwise it's hardly a breakfast benefit.
- Breakfast benefit : is it still for 2 adults in a room ? What about kids ?
Also I assume some properties which have lounge but don't have to offer acces to it to platinum guest may chose to do so instead of offering breakfast in restaurant. I imagine a lounge breakfast is cheaper than a breakfast in restaurant (except if the restaurant have a buffet in which case it's probably equal).
- what about properties with Lounge closed during week-end ? Do they have to offer breakfast in restaurant in addition to welcome points ? Is it still going to be a list of hotels which could just give points instead of breakfast ?
- Courtyard / AC Hotel / Proxy ; will the voucher be actually enough to cover a continental breakfast for two ? Otherwise it's hardly a breakfast benefit.
- Breakfast benefit : is it still for 2 adults in a room ? What about kids ?
Also I assume some properties which have lounge but don't have to offer acces to it to platinum guest may chose to do so instead of offering breakfast in restaurant. I imagine a lounge breakfast is cheaper than a breakfast in restaurant (except if the restaurant have a buffet in which case it's probably equal).
Apr 21, 2018 | 12:15 pm
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Will SPG Platinum members still have lounge access at Sheraton/Le Meridien/Westin Resorts properties that have a lounge?
- Members will continue to enjoy lounge access as they do today at Westin, Sheraton, and Le Meridien resorts. <added by Starwood Lurker 19Apr18>
Apr 21, 2018 | 12:20 pm
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Gary Leff simply described a combination of what's on Members.Marriott.com and today's SPG benefits.
Here's my own summary:
Essentially, the Platinum Elite breakfast benefits in August will be:
-- Continuation of SPG Platinum breakfast benefits at SPG legacy properties
-- Extending breakfast benefits to Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea, likely similar to Four Points and Aloft
-- Business as usual at brands that provide breakfast to all guests (Fairfield, SpringHill, Residence, TownPlace, Element)
-- Business as usual (no complimentary breakfast) at Ritz-Carlton, Edition, Gaylord, Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Executive Apartments, and Design Hotels
-- Business as usual at the five Marriott legacy full-service brands that currently provide the lounge/breakfast benefit, EXCEPT that daily breakfast becomes an arrival gift option, not something in addition to an arrival gift AND that resorts are no longer excluded
There might be fine tuning to guarantees and point alternatives to breakfast, and possibly other fine tuning.
It remains to be seen exactly what we'll get at Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea. Will there be a voucher that covers a choice of breakfast items, a choice of juice, good coffee, and a gratuity? Will "continental" mean just cold food, or will hotels offer more, just as most full-service hotels offer more? What percentage of hotels that have not previously provided elite breakfast see this as a great opportunity to attract Platinum guests? What percentage will see this an attack on their P&L, and will try to minimize the cost of what they provide?
Here's my own summary:
Essentially, the Platinum Elite breakfast benefits in August will be:
-- Continuation of SPG Platinum breakfast benefits at SPG legacy properties
-- Extending breakfast benefits to Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea, likely similar to Four Points and Aloft
-- Business as usual at brands that provide breakfast to all guests (Fairfield, SpringHill, Residence, TownPlace, Element)
-- Business as usual (no complimentary breakfast) at Ritz-Carlton, Edition, Gaylord, Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Executive Apartments, and Design Hotels
-- Business as usual at the five Marriott legacy full-service brands that currently provide the lounge/breakfast benefit, EXCEPT that daily breakfast becomes an arrival gift option, not something in addition to an arrival gift AND that resorts are no longer excluded
There might be fine tuning to guarantees and point alternatives to breakfast, and possibly other fine tuning.
It remains to be seen exactly what we'll get at Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea. Will there be a voucher that covers a choice of breakfast items, a choice of juice, good coffee, and a gratuity? Will "continental" mean just cold food, or will hotels offer more, just as most full-service hotels offer more? What percentage of hotels that have not previously provided elite breakfast see this as a great opportunity to attract Platinum guests? What percentage will see this an attack on their P&L, and will try to minimize the cost of what they provide?
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Apr 21, 2018 | 2:13 pm
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Per the official announcement wiki thread updated by Starwood Lurker: "We do have brand exemptions at some of our properties. There will continue to be a limited number of hotels that will provide alternate benefits if they are unable to meet the requirements (e.g. no lounge, lounge closed on weekends, etc.). Additional details will be included in the new program Terms & Conditions. <added by Starwood Lurker 19Apr19>"
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star...ne-august.html
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Apr 21, 2018 | 2:19 pm
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Gary Leff simply described a combination of what's on Members.Marriott.com and today's SPG benefits.
Here's my own summary:
Essentially, the Platinum Elite breakfast benefits in August will be:
-- Continuation of SPG Platinum breakfast benefits at SPG legacy properties
-- Extending breakfast benefits to Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea, likely similar to Four Points and Aloft
-- Business as usual at brands that provide breakfast to all guests (Fairfield, SpringHill, Residence, TownPlace, Element)
-- Business as usual (no complimentary breakfast) at Ritz-Carlton, Edition, Gaylord, Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Executive Apartments, and Design Hotels
-- Business as usual at the five Marriott legacy full-service brands that currently provide the lounge/breakfast benefit, EXCEPT that daily breakfast becomes an arrival gift option, not something in addition to an arrival gift AND that resorts are no longer excluded
There might be fine tuning to guarantees and point alternatives to breakfast, and possibly other fine tuning.
It remains to be seen exactly what we'll get at Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea. Will there be a voucher that covers a choice of breakfast items, a choice of juice, good coffee, and a gratuity? Will "continental" mean just cold food, or will hotels offer more, just as most full-service hotels offer more? What percentage of hotels that have not previously provided elite breakfast see this as a great opportunity to attract Platinum guests? What percentage will see this an attack on their P&L, and will try to minimize the cost of what they provide?
Here's my own summary:
Essentially, the Platinum Elite breakfast benefits in August will be:
-- Continuation of SPG Platinum breakfast benefits at SPG legacy properties
-- Extending breakfast benefits to Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea, likely similar to Four Points and Aloft
-- Business as usual at brands that provide breakfast to all guests (Fairfield, SpringHill, Residence, TownPlace, Element)
-- Business as usual (no complimentary breakfast) at Ritz-Carlton, Edition, Gaylord, Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Executive Apartments, and Design Hotels
-- Business as usual at the five Marriott legacy full-service brands that currently provide the lounge/breakfast benefit, EXCEPT that daily breakfast becomes an arrival gift option, not something in addition to an arrival gift AND that resorts are no longer excluded
There might be fine tuning to guarantees and point alternatives to breakfast, and possibly other fine tuning.
It remains to be seen exactly what we'll get at Courtyard, AC Hotels, MOXY, and Protea. Will there be a voucher that covers a choice of breakfast items, a choice of juice, good coffee, and a gratuity? Will "continental" mean just cold food, or will hotels offer more, just as most full-service hotels offer more? What percentage of hotels that have not previously provided elite breakfast see this as a great opportunity to attract Platinum guests? What percentage will see this an attack on their P&L, and will try to minimize the cost of what they provide?
Apr 21, 2018 | 2:28 pm
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My educated guess is that current exceptions -- such as carve-outs that allow some Marriott legacy full-service properties to offer points in lieu of a weekend breakfast -- will remain the same. I would like to think that the number of points will increase (1,000 points in lieu of breakfast is laughable). But that's probably just wishful thinking.
Apr 21, 2018 | 2:35 pm
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I'd love to see how the Cosmopolitan in Vegas skirts around this. In 2013, they did offer buffet passes for 2 (just one time, not per day). Then they got rid of that.
Apr 21, 2018 | 2:47 pm
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The fact that the Cosmopolitan provided more than they had to at one time is nice. The fact that they now longer do just means they dropped something that was never required by Marriott.
This should change August 1 with the new Platinum/Platinum Premier Elite breakfast benefit. Resorts are no longer excluded. Daily breakfast for two should be an arrival gift option... unless the Cosmopolitan works out some sort of exception with Marriott.
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