After 40 years of "buying Boeing" Qantas to spend huge with Airbus
Nov 1, 2000 | 11:25 pm
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Originally posted by NYC1:
SYD-JFK can be done on the "777-200 Longer Range".
It has a maximum range of 8860 nautical miles (the Airbus 340-500's is 8500 nautical miles).
SYD-JFK is 8640 nautical miles.
PER-LHR is 7798 nautical miles.
It can be done but for some reason it is not.
SYD-JFK can be done on the "777-200 Longer Range".
It has a maximum range of 8860 nautical miles (the Airbus 340-500's is 8500 nautical miles).
SYD-JFK is 8640 nautical miles.
PER-LHR is 7798 nautical miles.
It can be done but for some reason it is not.
Nov 1, 2000 | 11:29 pm
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NYC1. With the headwind and a full load? Like to see that. And I would not book on the maiden flight is my free advice. 
Terenz, I do not recall that at all.
Certainly do remember the LHR-PER made news, as that itself was rather a major feat. No-one flies Europe to SIN/HGK/BKK etc, which are many hours short of SYD so there is no way ANY existing plane will make it non-stop to SYD. (IMHO!)
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Terenz, I do not recall that at all.
Certainly do remember the LHR-PER made news, as that itself was rather a major feat. No-one flies Europe to SIN/HGK/BKK etc, which are many hours short of SYD so there is no way ANY existing plane will make it non-stop to SYD. (IMHO!)
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Nov 1, 2000 | 11:32 pm
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Oz,
Wow, a whole inch of legroom. 10 years ago Qantas had two more inches than they do today. One step forward, two back.
BTW, as you seem so in love with this thing, does that mean that you'll stop flying United????
Wow, a whole inch of legroom. 10 years ago Qantas had two more inches than they do today. One step forward, two back.
BTW, as you seem so in love with this thing, does that mean that you'll stop flying United????
Nov 1, 2000 | 11:52 pm
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Originally posted by ozstamps:
No-one flies Europe to SIN/HGK/BKK etc,[/b] which are many hours short of SYD so there is no way ANY existing plane will make it non-stop to SYD. (IMHO!)
No-one flies Europe to SIN/HGK/BKK etc,[/b] which are many hours short of SYD so there is no way ANY existing plane will make it non-stop to SYD. (IMHO!)
Nov 2, 2000 | 12:11 am
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Terenz .. I stand corrected. Was still typing that 11.29 post when you did the 11.22 one with this hotlink! 
http://www.qantas.com.au/company/history/dawn/qa17.html
Qantas ran that record breaking "bare back" flight LHR-SYD. 20 hours non-stop. Your memory is excellent - I owe you a beer as penance if we do cross paths in Seattle next week! And re the Europe-Asia flights, had not edited completely as had a phone call - of course pretty well ALL flights SIN/BKK/HGK to Europe are non stop and have been for many years. That is optimum range for a 747. SYD is however another 8-9 hours or so flying to many of those ports. Time for my tablet now.
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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-02-2000).]
http://www.qantas.com.au/company/history/dawn/qa17.html
Qantas ran that record breaking "bare back" flight LHR-SYD. 20 hours non-stop. Your memory is excellent - I owe you a beer as penance if we do cross paths in Seattle next week! And re the Europe-Asia flights, had not edited completely as had a phone call - of course pretty well ALL flights SIN/BKK/HGK to Europe are non stop and have been for many years. That is optimum range for a 747. SYD is however another 8-9 hours or so flying to many of those ports. Time for my tablet now.
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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-02-2000).]
Nov 2, 2000 | 9:19 am
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Originally posted by ozstamps:
NYC1With the headwind and a full load? Like to see that. And I would not book on the maiden flight is my free advice.
NYC1With the headwind and a full load? Like to see that. And I would not book on the maiden flight is my free advice.
Nov 2, 2000 | 5:33 pm
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Not even if they offered quadruple miles!
NYC-SYD non-stop will be really pushing the envelope in a full laden 777 going east into the headwind all the way IMHO. I guess that would be a 17 hour type flight? Over millions of acres of OCEAN for most of the journey, and most particularly, the final half. No thanks! I like adventure, but that one is too hard to get excited about until the reliabilty is well proven.
But, I guess whomever flew the first non-stop USA-SYD on a 747 might have had the same doubts. Anyone recall when that flight was first taken, and which airline?
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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-02-2000).]
NYC-SYD non-stop will be really pushing the envelope in a full laden 777 going east into the headwind all the way IMHO. I guess that would be a 17 hour type flight? Over millions of acres of OCEAN for most of the journey, and most particularly, the final half. No thanks! I like adventure, but that one is too hard to get excited about until the reliabilty is well proven.
But, I guess whomever flew the first non-stop USA-SYD on a 747 might have had the same doubts. Anyone recall when that flight was first taken, and which airline?
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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-02-2000).]
Nov 2, 2000 | 5:53 pm
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Somehow I just cannot get too excited today (2 Nov 2000) as the first delivery date appears to be mid-2006 per the article. FWIW they easily could of promised "6 nice more inches" of hip room and/or leg room. That far down the road means absolutely nothing today. Actually I wonder how many of today's airlines will be operating under their current name by mid-2006.
Nov 2, 2000 | 6:36 pm
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Also, a long flight is not necessarily the great circle route. The airline needs permission to overfly the nations along the way. A LHR-SYD great circle route overflies some lively places, including the Russia-China border and a few of the former Soviet "republics." If I were on that plane and it had the fuel, I would be more comfortable going the long away around some of those spots.
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