How to destroy/hammer an RFID chip in a passport
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This is completely untrue for two reasons. First, people were confusing "off" with "standby". Secondly, there was a belief that this was being done wirelessly which is not true, the phone has to be physically hooked up to a data cable*.
The "off" thing doesn't really matter - as the cops could just turn the phone on.
http://www.mobilemag.com/2011/04/21/...ufed-handheld/
http://www.policeone.com/police-tech...ta-extraction/
Could cops do this without a warrant? They "could" if they have the phone in their possession. I would maintain that if you've got cops looking at your cell phone with that level of detail without a warrant then you have bigger problems.
This all doesn't apply in California. The California State Supreme Court ruled that police can search the contents of a cell phone when they arrest someone (State v. Diaz).
* There is a bluetooth module sold for these devices, however it should still take manual intervention to make the connection (device must be discoverable, enter bluetooth passkey, etc.).
Last edited by coyote; Aug 11, 2011 at 5:00 pm
#32
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Forget legal, how about some kind of technical documents that explain how it is possible.
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Our Irish ones have "basic access control" which need to be scanned first I believe but I'm not too sure that bypassing this "zone" is all that difficult.
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Well, it depends on the length of the encryption key. I am not a communications engineer, but I believe it will take a while trying different combinations of the key. In the end, it may not be worth the effort.
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Wirelessly posted (Motorola DynaTAC: BlackBerry9630/5.0.0.1030 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/104)
It was possible to listen in on AMPS cellular calls with a plain Radio Shack scanner. Even if the actual frequencies were blocked, a scanner with just a double conversion receiving circuit would able to pick up the frequency "image". In the mid 90s when CDMA and TDMA came along, all that could be heard was hash. If anyone wanted to intercept cal,ls they would probably need the cooperation of the cellular carrier.
Back OT, don't microwave a passport. Se my first post in this thread for a link to an article.
Originally Posted by Travelsonic
Forget legal, how about some kind of technical documents that explain how it is possible.
Back OT, don't microwave a passport. Se my first post in this thread for a link to an article.
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anybopdy know of a reaaly cheap USB-RFID reader or similar,
that would work to "sniff" a passport?
I saw some like $60+, anything cheaper
were bare-bones boards that require integration.
that would work to "sniff" a passport?
I saw some like $60+, anything cheaper
were bare-bones boards that require integration.
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I'd buy that as well.. The ones I saw were over $250
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The problem is that it is illegal in the US and law enforcement needs some sort of warrant. The type of warrant depends on state or Federal law.
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Mod - Much of this thread instructs on and encourages federal felony conduct. It's one thing to crticize the use of a technology or the government, quite another to provide instructions on how to violate the law and then encourage it.
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At the airport, they always swiped my passport; however, when I entered by car at Peace Arch numerous times, they read the passport book and passport card by putting them on the RFID reader pad. They also have vicinity RFID readers on the approach to the customs booths for passport cards, but I do not use them because of privacy concerns and because it does not speed up process at all.
Wow. Just wow.
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(or if I was accurate )
but I can try tomorrow...
edit: sorry, can't find it,
but I don't really know enough
about what specs are anyway.
Last edited by MrHalliday; Aug 12, 2011 at 3:37 pm
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No; it has a "unique identifier" that can be read from 20-30 feet away. The unique identifier is just a random number that links to your record in the CBP database, so there is really no privacy concern.
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I agree. Even the original topic is illegal.