Scoot: Premium Economy - MEL-ATH one-way €654
Apr 13, 2019, 7:36 am
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Scoot: Premium Economy - MEL-ATH one-way €654
I was playing around with Scoot fares and found this nice gem from Australia to Europe. Coach is under €300 but at this price point for a product similar to Norwegian...
Source: PCD
Melbourne to Athens from €654
Scoot Business "Premium Economy" Boeing 787 (Random online photos)
Source: PCD
Melbourne to Athens from €654
Scoot Business "Premium Economy" Boeing 787 (Random online photos)
Last edited by jfkeze; Apr 13, 2019 at 7:42 am
Apr 13, 2019, 8:49 pm
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I think it's a bit of a strecth to put Scoot and Norwegian in the same category 
Other than both products happen to be on a plane!
Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Other than both products happen to be on a plane!Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Apr 13, 2019, 9:26 pm
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I think it's a bit of a strecth to put Scoot and Norwegian in the same category Other than both products happen to be on a plane!
Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Other than both products happen to be on a plane!Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Apr 13, 2019, 10:20 pm
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I think it's a bit of a strecth to put Scoot and Norwegian in the same category Other than both products happen to be on a plane!
Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Other than both products happen to be on a plane!Scoot gives one drink with each meal... the rest, even water, has to be paid for. The one meal given is tiny, any additional food must be paid. Seat pitch on Scoot is limited, compared to 45-50 inches on norwegian. Scoot doesn't have the best reputation for on time performance (the last delay was more than 48 hours in Athens?). Plus I think from MEl the connection times are quite poor.
I would not recommend anyone taking Scoot either in economy (cheaper to fly legacy carriers) or 'biz' unless no other alternatives.
Apr 13, 2019, 10:39 pm
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This is useful if and only if you're based in Australia and want to position to Europe for the much cheaper Europe to Australia/Asia J fares and have lots of time on your hand, and can not fly to Europe in Y for so long. Sure, seats are bigger with more leg rooms than Y, but that's the only good thing about it.
I was looking at booking regional flights out of SIN and passed up TR, booked other legacy carriers in Y instead because
1. It's not cheaper when you add up food on board and checked bags.
2. Seats are cramped on 777 and passengers of size will be required to pay double, else would be denied boarding.
3. Frequent and lengthy delays, even cancellations which would cost astronomical to re-book alternatives last minute during prime periods (ie. CNY).
I also need to emphasize the magnitude of delay, it's not just a few hours, sometimes it can be days, that's if you're lucky enough to be looked after, sometimes you're just SOL. In my case I need to connect to TK flight back to Canada from SIN, there's a risk with TR even with layover overnight during peak holiday periods. Stick with legacy carriers in Y for the peace of mind if you can't afford to get stranded and miss your long haul flights.
Search FT and you'll find quite a few TR drama, here's one but you'll see others if you search
Scoot - cancelled my flight, will not give a refund :(
I was looking at booking regional flights out of SIN and passed up TR, booked other legacy carriers in Y instead because
1. It's not cheaper when you add up food on board and checked bags.
2. Seats are cramped on 777 and passengers of size will be required to pay double, else would be denied boarding.
3. Frequent and lengthy delays, even cancellations which would cost astronomical to re-book alternatives last minute during prime periods (ie. CNY).
I also need to emphasize the magnitude of delay, it's not just a few hours, sometimes it can be days, that's if you're lucky enough to be looked after, sometimes you're just SOL. In my case I need to connect to TK flight back to Canada from SIN, there's a risk with TR even with layover overnight during peak holiday periods. Stick with legacy carriers in Y for the peace of mind if you can't afford to get stranded and miss your long haul flights.
Search FT and you'll find quite a few TR drama, here's one but you'll see others if you search
Scoot - cancelled my flight, will not give a refund :(
Last edited by vincewy; Apr 13, 2019 at 11:02 pm
Apr 14, 2019, 1:14 am
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But it's not matched by the soft product or reliability. Scoot Biz is not in the same league as say jetstar's 'business' which is the equaivalent of US domestic first class (food, drinks etc all included). @ trooper - Norwegian may not have such a good reputation for reliability, but you have the portection of EU261 for all flights. Not so, unfortunately, with Scoot.
(For around the same price as ScootBiz you can hop on China Airlines with a full legacy PE offering, and to more destinations across Europe. )
Apr 14, 2019, 2:46 am
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Have heard recently that passengers on cancelled TR flights departing Australia for SIN have been put on SQ instead. Not sure how it works re Scootbiz (if they move you to Y, PE or J) but would be interesting to know
Apr 14, 2019, 2:37 pm
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Wow, surprised at all the negative commentary on Scoot... but not every sale is for every passenger... If you have a decent travel insurance and are not tied to specific commitments.. There are plenty of people flying LCCs across the globe and a "deal" with some caveats is still a deal....
Apr 14, 2019, 3:22 pm
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Wow, surprised at all the negative commentary on Scoot... but not every sale is for every passenger... If you have a decent travel insurance and are not tied to specific commitments.. There are plenty of people flying LCCs across the globe and a "deal" with some caveats is still a deal....
Scoot is the exception to this, which warrants the warning.
Apr 14, 2019, 4:19 pm
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The pictures look good But it's not matched by the soft product or reliability. Scoot Biz is not in the same league as say jetstar's 'business' which is the equaivalent of US domestic first class (food, drinks etc all included).
@ trooper - Norwegian may not have such a good reputation for reliability, but you have the portection of EU261 for all flights. Not so, unfortunately, with Scoot.
(For around the same price as ScootBiz you can hop on China Airlines with a full legacy PE offering, and to more destinations across Europe. )
But it's not matched by the soft product or reliability. Scoot Biz is not in the same league as say jetstar's 'business' which is the equaivalent of US domestic first class (food, drinks etc all included).@ trooper - Norwegian may not have such a good reputation for reliability, but you have the portection of EU261 for all flights. Not so, unfortunately, with Scoot.
(For around the same price as ScootBiz you can hop on China Airlines with a full legacy PE offering, and to more destinations across Europe. )
P.S. You got that right lol . I'd rather go CI in Premium too!!!
Apr 14, 2019, 4:52 pm
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How does EC261 help with delays? It provides monetary compensation...it doesn't get you where you want to be any quicker surely? I don't know about you but if I need to be somewhere a wad of cash doesn't make up for NOT being there...
P.S. You got that right lol . I'd rather go CI in Premium too!!!
P.S. You got that right lol . I'd rather go CI in Premium too!!!
The recent scoot delay in Athens for 48 hours or whatever... pax could have bought tickets on just about any other carrier with the money.