Were QR correct to offload us?
#17
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Join Date: Feb 2019
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It should also be said that the 45 mins can be a bit flexible if there are a lot of people connecting between the same flights, in which case the second flight might get held a short while for the delayed inbound. I've benefitted from that a few times, although things did seem to be a touch more flexible at the old airport (yes, still mourning the Premium Terminal...)
#18
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I had a similar experience recently and was quite frustrated by it. My flight to DOH arrived FIVE minutes late. I had about a one hour layover. I was in J, connecting to F. I was the first person off the plane and there was a man with a sign for my destination. I thought he was going to help me, but he gave me a new boarding pass for 7 hours later. I asked, really, I can't make it? He had me follow another employee who was escorting other passengers on a different flight. She called someone as we walked and I heard her say she had an F passenger for flight XX. Then she got off the phone, told me it was fine, and that I should go to Al Safwa to board (via a bus gate) because it was closer than the gate. So I went to Safwa, checked in at the outer & inner counters but they told me we weren't even boarding yet and I had time. I went to the restroom and grabbed a quick drink. It was finally time to board but when I tried, they said I had been offloaded and they couldn't put me back on. At this point it was still about 25 minutes before scheduled departure. Very annoying!
It had been a long travel day and I was exhausted, and I think the lounge attendants saw me fighting back tears at this point. They were very kind and immediately booked me a sleeping room.
I was most frustrated because, at the risk of sounding pretentious, I was connecting to an F flight as a QR Platinum who had a cash booking. I see them help whisk people to their gates all the time. I would have thought I would "qualify" for the help, but apparently not. I have another similar tight connection coming up and now I'm worried about the same thing happening.
It had been a long travel day and I was exhausted, and I think the lounge attendants saw me fighting back tears at this point. They were very kind and immediately booked me a sleeping room.
I was most frustrated because, at the risk of sounding pretentious, I was connecting to an F flight as a QR Platinum who had a cash booking. I see them help whisk people to their gates all the time. I would have thought I would "qualify" for the help, but apparently not. I have another similar tight connection coming up and now I'm worried about the same thing happening.
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#20
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#21
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Boarding didn’t start until 15mins before ETD, we were still in the lounge until then.
Literally all pax on board announcement & within a couple of mins we pushed.
Boarding started at 1450hrs.
ETD 1505.
Pushback 1521hrs.
Take off 1545hrs.
#22
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Then she got off the phone, told me it was fine, and that I should go to Al Safwa to board (via a bus gate) because it was closer than the gate. So I went to Safwa, checked in at the outer & inner counters but they told me we weren't even boarding yet and I had time. I went to the restroom and grabbed a quick drink. It was finally time to board but when I tried, they said I had been offloaded and they couldn't put me back on. At this point it was still about 25 minutes before scheduled departure. Very annoying!
#23
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 935
This happened last week, for the first time in flying Qatar for over 15 years, we didn’t make a flight connection.
We flew in on QR4 from LHR ETA 2350, ATA 0008. (18 mins late)
Due to connect with QR1002 DXB. ETD 0055.
We were off the plane at 0020 & straight into the terminal, no transfer security, at Gate B3.
We rushed to Gate C93 (bus gate) & were there at 0030hrs (25mins b4 departure)
At the gate it was showing “Final Call” & they were actively looking for DXB pax.
We made it, so we thought, Boarding passes scanned, beeped & gate agent mumbled something about Sharjah?
Then the other agent said we were offloaded due to missed connection, I pointed out the “Final Call” & we are here.
She said rebooked to Sharjah in 7 hours, I was not happy, then a Supervisor took us away from the gate, upstairs & pointed us in the direction of Customer Services.
If the flight was closed, I would have just accepted it without any issue.
QR1002 departed at 0127hrs (32mins late). 57mins after we reached the gate.
Was I right to be annoyed or is this usual practice?
Also when we deplaned at Gate B3, they were actively looking for Tehran pax, but not DXB pax, ETD0055 the same as DXB flight.
We flew in on QR4 from LHR ETA 2350, ATA 0008. (18 mins late)
Due to connect with QR1002 DXB. ETD 0055.
We were off the plane at 0020 & straight into the terminal, no transfer security, at Gate B3.
We rushed to Gate C93 (bus gate) & were there at 0030hrs (25mins b4 departure)
At the gate it was showing “Final Call” & they were actively looking for DXB pax.
We made it, so we thought, Boarding passes scanned, beeped & gate agent mumbled something about Sharjah?
Then the other agent said we were offloaded due to missed connection, I pointed out the “Final Call” & we are here.
She said rebooked to Sharjah in 7 hours, I was not happy, then a Supervisor took us away from the gate, upstairs & pointed us in the direction of Customer Services.
If the flight was closed, I would have just accepted it without any issue.
QR1002 departed at 0127hrs (32mins late). 57mins after we reached the gate.
Was I right to be annoyed or is this usual practice?
Also when we deplaned at Gate B3, they were actively looking for Tehran pax, but not DXB pax, ETD0055 the same as DXB flight.
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...415Z/EGLL/OTHH
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...205Z/OTHH/OMDB
So flgiht left gate 12 mins late meaning it missed its taxi spot and was delayed. On arrival it landed at 00:08 at which point the Dubai flight they are probably deciding to off load you or not. MCU is 45 mins, and at the gate you are exactly around 45 mins. At this point they have already decided you wont make it and your better to go to Sharjah, personally suggested Abu Dhabi and then sticking in a claim for the taxi as it was a 2:45 am depature. Either way stick in EU261 and I guess consider it as a contribution to your cost.
#24
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Any suggestions on what I can/should do, if this were to happen again on my upcoming flight with a similarly tight connection?
#25
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No, they didn't. I gave them my original boarding pass at both counters in the lounge (and explained what had happened). They said I was all good to board from there so I didn't even think to ask about getting a new boarding pass.
Any suggestions on what I can/should do, if this were to happen again on my upcoming flight with a similarly tight connection?
Any suggestions on what I can/should do, if this were to happen again on my upcoming flight with a similarly tight connection?
#26
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They presented themselves to the boarding gate before the flight was closed but were not allowed to board since the airline had decided to invalidate their boarding passes.
See: Cachafeiro, Varela-Villamor v Iberia
#27
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If I am right, you flew on the 4th June QR4 and 5th June QR1002 as it seems to match what you have said.
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...415Z/EGLL/OTHH
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...205Z/OTHH/OMDB
So flgiht left gate 12 mins late meaning it missed its taxi spot and was delayed. On arrival it landed at 00:08 at which point the Dubai flight they are probably deciding to off load you or not. MCU is 45 mins, and at the gate you are exactly around 45 mins. At this point they have already decided you wont make it and your better to go to Sharjah, personally suggested Abu Dhabi and then sticking in a claim for the taxi as it was a 2:45 am depature. Either way stick in EU261 and I guess consider it as a contribution to your cost.
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...415Z/EGLL/OTHH
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...205Z/OTHH/OMDB
So flgiht left gate 12 mins late meaning it missed its taxi spot and was delayed. On arrival it landed at 00:08 at which point the Dubai flight they are probably deciding to off load you or not. MCU is 45 mins, and at the gate you are exactly around 45 mins. At this point they have already decided you wont make it and your better to go to Sharjah, personally suggested Abu Dhabi and then sticking in a claim for the taxi as it was a 2:45 am depature. Either way stick in EU261 and I guess consider it as a contribution to your cost.
We have the same flights again in Sept, will be better prepared next time.
Will be claiming under EU261, thanks for all the help & suggestions everyone, that’s what I love about the Flyertalk Community.
#28
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In this case the cause of the delay is irrelevant, the OP was wrongly denied boarding in DOH causing the delay in arrival of his trip from London. Therefore UK261 applies, and compensation of £520 per passenger is due plus any additional out of pocket travel and subsistence costs.
#29
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In this case the cause of the delay is irrelevant, the OP was wrongly denied boarding in DOH causing the delay in arrival of his trip from London. Therefore UK261 applies, and compensation of £520 per passenger is due plus any additional out of pocket travel and subsistence costs.
Now good luck to OP arguing that with QR customer service.