SAS and Other SkyTeam Airlines
Aug 14, 2024, 4:54 am
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 950
SAS and Other SkyTeam Airlines
I am FB Plat living in DK and just status matched to EBG from TK *G.
I just made the calculation of retaining FBG and/or EBG.
I mainly fly TATL Canada and a bit US. I fly in all classes but this calculation really stuck out.
With FB it would take me 6 round trip CPH-YUL (one stop in CDG or AMS) in lowest discounted Y netting me 30XP pr. trip to retain Gold.
With EB it would take me around 27 round trips to retain EBG flying lowest discounted Y (R) with KL/AF/DL netting me a bit over 1600 points pr. trip.
I might be missing something but if I'm not Wow!
I just made the calculation of retaining FBG and/or EBG.
I mainly fly TATL Canada and a bit US. I fly in all classes but this calculation really stuck out.
With FB it would take me 6 round trip CPH-YUL (one stop in CDG or AMS) in lowest discounted Y netting me 30XP pr. trip to retain Gold.
With EB it would take me around 27 round trips to retain EBG flying lowest discounted Y (R) with KL/AF/DL netting me a bit over 1600 points pr. trip.
I might be missing something but if I'm not Wow!
Aug 19, 2024, 11:02 am
#3
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,518
You've discovered one instance where gaining gold status will be much easier with Flying Blue than with EuroBonus. But you can also find examples of the opposite.
In SAS Plus Pro on ARN-CPH-LAX, you'll get 17.000 points round-trip, which means gold after only three trips.
With Flying Blue in premium economy class on ARN-AMS-LAX, you'll need five round-trip flights to go from explorer to gold.
In SAS Plus Pro on ARN-CPH-LAX, you'll get 17.000 points round-trip, which means gold after only three trips.
With Flying Blue in premium economy class on ARN-AMS-LAX, you'll need five round-trip flights to go from explorer to gold.
Aug 19, 2024, 11:05 am
#4
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 950
The thing with FB is that you will start from scratch and need 100XP for Silver + 180XP for Gold to become ST Elite Plus with lounge, Sky Priority ect. within one year after you qualify for Silver.
300XP extra from Gold to become Plat.
I don't know your flying patterns but I'm sure SK will go in to the exist FB matrix which is explained well here
https://www.flyingblue.com/en/progra...tus?country=NL
One thing to look out for that's domestic that only nets you 2XP and that's not much if one flyes from JFK to LAX in Y the same as from CPH to AAL.
Last edited by Stil; Sep 1, 2024 at 2:53 am
Aug 19, 2024, 11:08 am
#6
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
Posts: 6,203
Flying discounted Y on SK was already now impossible to keep status.... I mean... 200 points for CPH-NYC in Go Light or 400 in Go Smart? And you need 45.000 for Gold or even 90.000 for EBD?
The most difficult part is always the year building up status in a new program. Using benefits from one and crediting to another program is risky. sometimes it works, sometimes not. So you have to comitt to the new program and will be SOL for a good part of the year flying basically without status. Hope they fold EB into FB at some point and retain the lifetime status which I earned the hard way.... a decade of flying SK economy
The most difficult part is always the year building up status in a new program. Using benefits from one and crediting to another program is risky. sometimes it works, sometimes not. So you have to comitt to the new program and will be SOL for a good part of the year flying basically without status. Hope they fold EB into FB at some point and retain the lifetime status which I earned the hard way.... a decade of flying SK economy
Aug 19, 2024, 11:26 am
#7
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 950
Flying discounted Y on SK was already now impossible to keep status.... I mean... 200 points for CPH-NYC in Go Light or 400 in Go Smart? And you need 45.000 for Gold or even 90.000 for EBD?
The most difficult part is always the year building up status in a new program. Using benefits from one and crediting to another program is risky. sometimes it works, sometimes not. So you have to comitt to the new program and will be SOL for a good part of the year flying basically without status. Hope they fold EB into FB at some point and retain the lifetime status which I earned the hard way.... a decade of flying SK economy
The most difficult part is always the year building up status in a new program. Using benefits from one and crediting to another program is risky. sometimes it works, sometimes not. So you have to comitt to the new program and will be SOL for a good part of the year flying basically without status. Hope they fold EB into FB at some point and retain the lifetime status which I earned the hard way.... a decade of flying SK economy
I will for sure not recommend it if dealing with DL. Quite a bit of their ground staff, that one deal's the most with like check in and lounge, can be a bit square to put it mildly.
It would amaze me if life time status would not transfer to FB.
Last edited by Stil; Aug 19, 2024 at 11:32 am
Aug 19, 2024, 12:20 pm
#9
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 950
You've discovered one instance where gaining gold status will be much easier with Flying Blue than with EuroBonus. But you can also find examples of the opposite.
In SAS Plus Pro on ARN-CPH-LAX, you'll get 17.000 points round-trip, which means gold after only three trips.
With Flying Blue in premium economy class on ARN-AMS-LAX, you'll need five round-trip flights to go from explorer to gold.
In SAS Plus Pro on ARN-CPH-LAX, you'll get 17.000 points round-trip, which means gold after only three trips.
With Flying Blue in premium economy class on ARN-AMS-LAX, you'll need five round-trip flights to go from explorer to gold.
That should net one 13400 level and bonus points if my calculation are correct.
And nearly Gold in 3 trips for 1614€. That's not bad.
Last edited by Stil; Aug 19, 2024 at 12:25 pm
Aug 19, 2024, 4:57 pm
#10
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: UAMP S, TK M&S E (*G), Marriott LTP, IHG P, SK EBG
Posts: 11,516
Aug 20, 2024, 12:29 am
#11
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 950
It's return and here is a bit more.
SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS: Permitted 01NOV through 16DEC or 08JAN through 31MAR for each transatlantic sector.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS: Valid for travel commencing on/after 01NOV 24 and on/before 30APR 25. All travel must be completed by midnight on 03MAY 25.
SALES RESTRICTIONS: Tickets must be issued on/after 14AUG 24 and on/before 26AUG 24.
SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS: Permitted 01NOV through 16DEC or 08JAN through 31MAR for each transatlantic sector.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS: Valid for travel commencing on/after 01NOV 24 and on/before 30APR 25. All travel must be completed by midnight on 03MAY 25.
SALES RESTRICTIONS: Tickets must be issued on/after 14AUG 24 and on/before 26AUG 24.
Aug 20, 2024, 8:30 am
#12
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: UAMP S, TK M&S E (*G), Marriott LTP, IHG P, SK EBG
Posts: 11,516
It's return and here is a bit more.
SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS: Permitted 01NOV through 16DEC or 08JAN through 31MAR for each transatlantic sector.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS: Valid for travel commencing on/after 01NOV 24 and on/before 30APR 25. All travel must be completed by midnight on 03MAY 25.
SALES RESTRICTIONS: Tickets must be issued on/after 14AUG 24 and on/before 26AUG 24.
SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS: Permitted 01NOV through 16DEC or 08JAN through 31MAR for each transatlantic sector.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS: Valid for travel commencing on/after 01NOV 24 and on/before 30APR 25. All travel must be completed by midnight on 03MAY 25.
SALES RESTRICTIONS: Tickets must be issued on/after 14AUG 24 and on/before 26AUG 24.