Fecal Matter on Outside of Toilet and on Walls at Westin Georgetown in DC
#31
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 3,317
You travel enough, you're bound to see something like this at least once, whether you're going 5 star or 1.
#32
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, SPG Plat
Posts: 423
True...and the answer to my second set of questions.
IMHO, this is a rant thread with very little merit.
IMO a person who feels their health is at risk, would immediately check out of the the hotel and request to be relocated at the offending properties expense, and then seek medical attention. This wasn't done.
I could be wrong, but I get the sense, that this thread was created so that we can give the poster ammunition to get more points out of the property. One of my reasons for saying this, is the OP continues to blame Starwood/SPG when this is a property level issue.
IMHO, this is a rant thread with very little merit.
IMO a person who feels their health is at risk, would immediately check out of the the hotel and request to be relocated at the offending properties expense, and then seek medical attention. This wasn't done.
I could be wrong, but I get the sense, that this thread was created so that we can give the poster ammunition to get more points out of the property. One of my reasons for saying this, is the OP continues to blame Starwood/SPG when this is a property level issue.
1) KENNECTED stays in a room with feces stains on the bed: He is entitled to lifetime status, free rooms, $ reimbursement, and a change in management. He also posts detailed reviews with pictures and videos online which are all justified.
2) Anyone else experiences something similar and they should take whatever offer they receive from the property and move on. Also any postings online are simply in order to extort more points.
#34
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, SPG Plat
Posts: 423
HA. I do not believe your complaint was purely altruistic. What a swell guy you must be. Doesn't want anything for his troubles, just assurances that it won't happen to anyone else. Interesting, however, that you accepted compensation if you were only complaining for the betterment of other travelers.
#35
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, SPG Plat
Posts: 423
So to close out this thread, Starwood has made this right by my book.
To the all-informed poster who stated with utmost certainty that this is only a property-specific issue, they were incorrect. I refused the offer that the hotel made to me. As a result of contact I made with Starwood corporate, I was able to reach a suitable resolution and move on. SPG Consumer Affairs looked at the situation, saw the pictures, weighed the response from the hotel and came forward with a more appropriate offer that I am pleased with. Starwood clearly takes situations like this very seriously and I appreciate their efforts and response.
Thank you to the 'Starwood Lurker', my ambassador, and the consumer affairs team for responding in such an understanding manner. I have moved all my remaining stays to other properties in DC but I have kept them in the SPG family due to the overwhelmingly positive experiences that I have had with company over the past 7 years, this major incident notwithstanding.
To the all-informed poster who stated with utmost certainty that this is only a property-specific issue, they were incorrect. I refused the offer that the hotel made to me. As a result of contact I made with Starwood corporate, I was able to reach a suitable resolution and move on. SPG Consumer Affairs looked at the situation, saw the pictures, weighed the response from the hotel and came forward with a more appropriate offer that I am pleased with. Starwood clearly takes situations like this very seriously and I appreciate their efforts and response.
Thank you to the 'Starwood Lurker', my ambassador, and the consumer affairs team for responding in such an understanding manner. I have moved all my remaining stays to other properties in DC but I have kept them in the SPG family due to the overwhelmingly positive experiences that I have had with company over the past 7 years, this major incident notwithstanding.
#36
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: AA EXP, UA GS, SPG Plat
Posts: 423
Agreed. Price is not a proxy for cleanliness in all cases. This could happen anywhere and there is probably some really nasty stuff going on right now at a Ritz or four seasons somewhere.
#38
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,862
True...and the answer to my second set of questions.
IMHO, this is a rant thread with very little merit.
IMO a person who feels their health is at risk, would immediately check out of the the hotel and request to be relocated at the offending properties expense, and then seek medical attention. This wasn't done.
I could be wrong, but I get the sense, that this thread was created so that we can give the poster ammunition to get more points out of the property. One of my reasons for saying this, is the OP continues to blame Starwood/SPG when this is a property level issue.
IMHO, this is a rant thread with very little merit.
IMO a person who feels their health is at risk, would immediately check out of the the hotel and request to be relocated at the offending properties expense, and then seek medical attention. This wasn't done.
I could be wrong, but I get the sense, that this thread was created so that we can give the poster ammunition to get more points out of the property. One of my reasons for saying this, is the OP continues to blame Starwood/SPG when this is a property level issue.
#39
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta - Gold; Starwood - Platinum; HHonors - Diamond & Avis Preferred
Posts: 10,869
I didn't realize this thread was an interview or interrogation being conducted by KENNECTED where my role is to answer all your questions. Your rambling posts contained many questions and statements that you feel 100% confident are correct. I get your point very clearly:
1) KENNECTED stays in a room with feces stains on the bed: He is entitled to lifetime status, free rooms, $ reimbursement, and a change in management. He also posts detailed reviews with pictures and videos online which are all justified.
2) Anyone else experiences something similar and they should take whatever offer they receive from the property and move on. Also any postings online are simply in order to extort more points.
1) KENNECTED stays in a room with feces stains on the bed: He is entitled to lifetime status, free rooms, $ reimbursement, and a change in management. He also posts detailed reviews with pictures and videos online which are all justified.
2) Anyone else experiences something similar and they should take whatever offer they receive from the property and move on. Also any postings online are simply in order to extort more points.
I never said you should take it, if so please show me. I only said they offered the equivalent of one nights stay.
When I do not clearly understand someone post/situation I ask questions to better understand. You chose not to answer to simple and valid questions.
HA. I do not believe your complaint was purely altruistic. What a swell guy you must be. Doesn't want anything for his troubles, just assurances that it won't happen to anyone else. Interesting, however, that you accepted compensation if you were only complaining for the betterment of other travelers.
I accepted compensation because of a unique situation, that came out of my pocket, that the GM agreed I should have had to pay.
This situation happened very early in my FT life and it did help others. THAT is why I participate on FT. I've learned a lot have become a trusted resource on FT and I hope to share what I've learned and pay it forward.
#40
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta - Gold; Starwood - Platinum; HHonors - Diamond & Avis Preferred
Posts: 10,869
Na, not at all. We had two different situations. Like I said, I'm glad the situation is resolved. Hopefully the Westin Georgetown staff, top to bottom, get the message and no other guest has to experience this.
#41
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: SPG Plat 100, Marriott Plat
Posts: 267
lol this ^^
No..No..No. The OP asked three specific questions.
- This is a category 5 property and you were offered the amount of points for a one night stay.
- For this situation, what is your definition of appropriate compensation?
- Was your health REALLY put at risk? Did you seek doctors attention? Go to an emergency room? If no, then might I suggest moving past this, unless you're saying your have been physiologically scarred.
#42
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta - Gold; Starwood - Platinum; HHonors - Diamond & Avis Preferred
Posts: 10,869
The first data point was an answer to a previous question.
#44
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: SPG Plat 100, Marriott Plat
Posts: 267
its* purpose
lol - yeah, and your posts didn't instigate anything... Reason for my post: I enjoy calling out the self-righteous.
#45
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta - Gold; Starwood - Platinum; HHonors - Diamond & Avis Preferred
Posts: 10,869
You might "think" I am being self righteous, but you know nothing! I've been a very active and trusted member of this community and will continue to do so regardless of your flawed attempt to attack my character.