UNITED to end Codeshare service with THAI from 01MAR12
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UNITED to end Codeshare service with THAI from 01MAR12
Article by Chicago Tribune on 19OCT11 reports that UNITED from 01MAR12 will terminate codeshare agreement with THAI, due to low demand.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,2148868.story
And looks like reservation for the codeshare flight is closed in the system already as well.
Current Codeshare routes:
UNITED operated by THAI
Bangkok – Frankfurt
Bangkok – Hanoi
Bangkok – Ho Chi Minh City
Bangkok – London Heathrow
THAI operated by UNITED
London Heathrow – Chicago
Los Angeles – Chicago
Los Angeles – Denver
Los Angeles – New York JFK
Los Angeles – San Francisco
Los Angeles – Washington Dulles
Tokyo Narita – Chicago
Tokyo Narita – San Francisco
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,2148868.story
And looks like reservation for the codeshare flight is closed in the system already as well.
Current Codeshare routes:
UNITED operated by THAI
Bangkok – Frankfurt
Bangkok – Hanoi
Bangkok – Ho Chi Minh City
Bangkok – London Heathrow
THAI operated by UNITED
London Heathrow – Chicago
Los Angeles – Chicago
Los Angeles – Denver
Los Angeles – New York JFK
Los Angeles – San Francisco
Los Angeles – Washington Dulles
Tokyo Narita – Chicago
Tokyo Narita – San Francisco
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I remember for years saving miles on United so that I could make a trip to Kathmandhu Nepal. One of two main routes for this trip is through Bangkok. West Coast USA to Bangkok is quite common, and since Thai airways is a codeshare with United, the BKK-KTM segment should be possible. Sadly, about three years ago I went to book this at least 7 months in advance and there was basically an entire year of unavailability for the BKK-KTM segment. I was forced to use miles for the trip to BKK and then purchase the BKK-KTM flight on Thai with money. Ironically, there were so many empty seats on that flight there was no one even near me. I could have laid down horizontal on any stretch I wanted. What a screwed up system indeed.
Anyway, because of this, it is no surprise that Thai airways has pulled this.
Anyway, because of this, it is no surprise that Thai airways has pulled this.
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How does this effect opportunities for award travel to SE Asia? Like a previous poster I am interested in KTM, as well as getting to BKK. Lots of KTM availability right now. though I am going next November. Generally, Thai was one of the main sources of saver award travel to SE Asia, is this going to change for us? I would appreciate your insights.
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Ending the codeshare arrangement should have no effect on awards.
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How does this effect opportunities for award travel to SE Asia? Like a previous poster I am interested in KTM, as well as getting to BKK. Lots of KTM availability right now. though I am going next November. Generally, Thai was one of the main sources of saver award travel to SE Asia, is this going to change for us? I would appreciate your insights.
Sometimes an itinerary with a codeshare flight may ended up being more expensive than an interline fare, which may explains why there's "low demand".
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What's the advantage to no longer offer a codeshare other than one fewer flight number to display?
Although the advantages to keeping the codeshare might be small due to 'low demand', what does United or Thai have to lose by offering it? I don't really see how it could cost either of them much other than perhaps a bit of paperwork.
Although the advantages to keeping the codeshare might be small due to 'low demand', what does United or Thai have to lose by offering it? I don't really see how it could cost either of them much other than perhaps a bit of paperwork.
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The only advantage of codeshares, IMO, is the potential of two or more price options for the same flight. And the possibility of a lower price on the codeshare than the operator might be providing.
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I have no idea if that's the case here, but...
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Codeshares are a marketing tool and are no particular advantage to the consumer. In fact, there are numerous downsides to the consumer with codeshares.
The only advantage of codeshares, IMO, is the potential of two or more price options for the same flight. And the possibility of a lower price on the codeshare than the operator might be providing.
The only advantage of codeshares, IMO, is the potential of two or more price options for the same flight. And the possibility of a lower price on the codeshare than the operator might be providing.
As a part of a codeshare agreements airlines will often commit to a minimum number of seats, and may need to pay for those seats if they are not used, and/or below which they may not get sufficient discount/profit share to make it worth selling any seats at all.
I have no idea if that's the case here, but...
I have no idea if that's the case here, but...
Maybe there are different numbers of seats allocated to the TG and UA numbers with the codeshare, so getting rid of it can mean that TG and UA can each manage their own inventory better? I could be making this all up, but just another idea I got.
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