Multi-Segment 1-Way Award

Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
You will not be allowed to backtrack in your travel direction.
Is this still the rule? I travelled BKK-NRT-FRA o/w C award earlier this year.

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:02 pm
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Thanks for your help and quick response. Do you know what they classify as backtracking? For instance is evn-vie-waw-sto-lon backtracking (it slightly goes the other way vie-waw) or am I only not allowed to backtrack between regions?

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by bevan7
Thanks for your help and quick response. Do you know what they classify as backtracking? For instance is evn-vie-waw-sto-lon backtracking (it slightly goes the other way vie-waw) or am I only not allowed to backtrack between regions?

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Never have seen an analytical "definition" of backtracking, or how much retracing is allowed -- may be a bit on agent discretion.

Try booking online -- the online system tends to be more lenient but get the connections to show up may be more challenging.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bevan7
Thanks for your help and quick response. Do you know what they classify as backtracking? For instance is evn-vie-waw-sto-lon backtracking (it slightly goes the other way vie-waw) or am I only not allowed to backtrack between regions?
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One cannot back track between regions or within a region. Your proposed routing would likely be ok. However, something like EVN-VIE-MAD-IST-LON would not even though the backtracking is within the same region.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 12:59 pm
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Thanks for your help guys
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Indelaware
One cannot back track between regions or within a region. Your proposed routing would likely be ok. However, something like EVN-VIE-MAD-IST-LON would not even though the backtracking is within the same region.
I've successfully booked BKK-TPE-NRT-ICN-SIN as an one way award a few months back ... Has the rules changed ?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 1:40 pm
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United.com award booking engine is by far the best in the industry. It has plenty of issues but NO AIRLINE will properly issue a multi segment partner award without calling.
Totally agreed. AA requires the over-water carrier to actually publish a revenue fare for a particular routing before it's award-bookable, which frequently creates headaches if you want to go to some second tier destination. With UA, you could literally create frankenawards.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 1:48 pm
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I've successfully booked BKK-TPE-NRT-ICN-SIN as an one way award a few months back ... Has the rules changed ?
pretty amazing -- was this done online or with an agent?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 3:35 pm
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I've successfully booked BKK-TPE-NRT-ICN-SIN as an one way award a few months back ... Has the rules changed ?
I thought there was the IATA Maximum Permitted Mileage (MPM) limit? I know CO is less restrictive than UA but is it completely gone now?
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What about domestic? How many stopovers can you have? I know it can't be more than 4 hours. Correct?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 5:20 pm
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I thought there was the IATA Maximum Permitted Mileage (MPM) limit? I know CO is less restrictive than UA but is it completely gone now?
MPM is no longer enforced at all on award bookings.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by username
I thought there was the IATA Maximum Permitted Mileage (MPM) limit? I know CO is less restrictive than UA but is it completely gone now?
Yes, it is gone.

Originally Posted by Barbella7
What about domestic? How many stopovers can you have? I know it can't be more than 4 hours. Correct?
Zero stopovers. You're talking about connections and you can have them but the value is generally much lower because of the time limits.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 6:11 pm
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Yes, it is gone.

Zero stopovers. You're talking about connections and you can have them but the value is generally much lower because of the time limits.
Though it might be fun to see lots of airports!
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 6:43 pm
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Though it might be fun to see lots of airports!
The best I ever did was BOS-EWR-IAD-PIT-CLE-ORD-MSP. Segment running.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
pretty amazing -- was this done online or with an agent?
Outside the USA the agents are pretty unaware of what consists backtracking.
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