Multi-Segment 1-Way Award
#1
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Multi-Segment 1-Way Award
From reading some other posts, and from talking to an agent, it seems that a one-way award of no more than 8-9 segments is possible in order to get it to price.
That said, what would be the best tool to create a multi-segment itinerary with valid connections?
United.com does not work when I start adding in international connections.
Any help would be appreciated.
That said, what would be the best tool to create a multi-segment itinerary with valid connections?
United.com does not work when I start adding in international connections.
Any help would be appreciated.
#2
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it is either united.com or a phone agent. No other choices.
Many have been successful doing a multi-city OW international award bookings (maybe not 8-9 segments) on united.com, so perhaps with a bit info on the problem someone can help.
Many have been successful doing a multi-city OW international award bookings (maybe not 8-9 segments) on united.com, so perhaps with a bit info on the problem someone can help.
#3
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Well,
What I want to do--while slightly crazy--is maximize the number of 23h59min stops (crazy because I'll be flying coach) en route from the eastern US/Canada to Asia.
By playing around with individual segment searches, and only looking at flights that leave within the 23h59min window, I see lots of possibilities--and ones that have award availability.
However, when I input the actual flights in conjunction, I get errors.
So say I wanted to go JFK-CPH-OSL-VIE-CAI-DXB-BKK, maximizing the time at each destination based on schedule/availability, if possible. How might I go about constructing such an award.
Basically, is there any way to see if--even while available as a one-way flight--the award segments will price together when connected?
What I want to do--while slightly crazy--is maximize the number of 23h59min stops (crazy because I'll be flying coach) en route from the eastern US/Canada to Asia.
By playing around with individual segment searches, and only looking at flights that leave within the 23h59min window, I see lots of possibilities--and ones that have award availability.
However, when I input the actual flights in conjunction, I get errors.
So say I wanted to go JFK-CPH-OSL-VIE-CAI-DXB-BKK, maximizing the time at each destination based on schedule/availability, if possible. How might I go about constructing such an award.
Basically, is there any way to see if--even while available as a one-way flight--the award segments will price together when connected?
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Book a framework online incl origin and destination and maybe one connecting city, in your case probably VIE or CAI will work best - call in immediately after ticketing to change to flights you really want including your 23hr overnights.
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Although UA is more liberal (better) then any other program out there, even UA wint price something like what your asking. At some point, there is a limit and you've gone way over that
#9
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A horrible booking engine cuz it won't let you stop in 5 countries in 6 days for the price of a o/w award
Although UA is more liberal (better) then any other program out there, even UA wint price something like what your asking. At some point, there is a limit and you've gone way over that
Although UA is more liberal (better) then any other program out there, even UA wint price something like what your asking. At some point, there is a limit and you've gone way over that
YMMV but w UA today NOTHING is impossible.
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A horrible booking engine cuz it won't let you stop in 5 countries in 6 days for the price of a o/w award
Although UA is more liberal (better) then any other program out there, even UA wint price something like what your asking. At some point, there is a limit and you've gone way over that
Although UA is more liberal (better) then any other program out there, even UA wint price something like what your asking. At some point, there is a limit and you've gone way over that
When adding three very basic flights
YYZ-CPH-OSL
I was getting an error saying that no flights could be found, when in fact there were available connections.
I understand that what I'm looking to do is extreme and might not even be entirely possible. My comment about the horrible booking engine was not based on performance relative to this extreme booking, but relative to a simple 3 or 4 segment itinerary. Your snark, therefore, is perhaps premature.
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Booking / flight search system are fairly complex and are programmed with a number of biases -- biased to certain providers, bias based on certain pricing guidelines (lowest fare, refunded fare, a particular fare class), minimizing layovers but still meeting MCT, ... Those biases may not fit your needs hence the suggest to use the phone agents -- their search system is more flexible -- plus if you have known flights, they can plug the specific flights directly. The online public system is a dumbed down system to prevent the public from making "poor choices", and is not really the best for an expert trying to push the limits.
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Sorry, but you didn't read my second post very fully, given your response.
When adding three very basic flights
YYZ-CPH-OSL
I was getting an error saying that no flights could be found, when in fact there were available connections.
I understand that what I'm looking to do is extreme and might not even be entirely possible. My comment about the horrible booking engine was not based on performance relative to this extreme booking, but relative to a simple 3 or 4 segment itinerary. Your snark, therefore, is perhaps premature.
When adding three very basic flights
YYZ-CPH-OSL
I was getting an error saying that no flights could be found, when in fact there were available connections.
I understand that what I'm looking to do is extreme and might not even be entirely possible. My comment about the horrible booking engine was not based on performance relative to this extreme booking, but relative to a simple 3 or 4 segment itinerary. Your snark, therefore, is perhaps premature.
#13
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Can I safely assume, then, that so long as there is availability in a given booking class, and the segment is part of a valid connection, then I can concatenate segments to the maximum that the system/pnr can handle (and more importantly, what a given agent will handle)?
#14
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Amount of legal connections on a one way award
Does anybody know how many legal connections (less than 24 hours) I am allowed to book on a one way award ticket. I am trying to fly to as many places as I can in Europe and stopping for less than 24 hours each time. If I can find the connecting flights, How many will the system allow me. For instance I want to fly from evn to london and I can find flights stopping in vienna, then warsaw, then, stockholm. Each stop is under 24 hours. Is this legal?
Thanks for your help
Bevan
Thanks for your help
Bevan
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This seems to be similar to a recent discussion http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...way-award.html
There is a limit to the number of "coupons" allowed in a ticket -- beleive this is 8 or 9. Other than that, there is no extra limit on the number of near 24 hour connections.
You will not be allowed to backtrack in your travel direction.
There is a limit to the number of "coupons" allowed in a ticket -- beleive this is 8 or 9. Other than that, there is no extra limit on the number of near 24 hour connections.
You will not be allowed to backtrack in your travel direction.