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EveryDay Awards - UA MP award changes 1 Nov 2017 (Everyday award/dynamic price, No RTW, No Show fee,..)
principle change - Standard awards being replaced by "EveryDay Award" with variable pricing
What is the Excursionist Perk?
Previous thread -- UA award booking,change questions/fees/issues/routing/excursionist problems {Archive}
- No more free stopover - replaced with Excursionist Perk
- Agents no longer have the ability to find routings or build itineraries that do not show up on united.com
- Manually constructing trips using multi-city search results in multiple award fares being charged
- Changing any segment basically requires current availability for all existing Os&Ds in the PNR (as if a brand new booking is made)
- Singapore Airlines segments are priced separately (add-ons)
Useful Links
EveryDay Awards - UA MP award changes 1 Nov 2017 (Everyday award/dynamic price, No RTW, No Show fee,..)
principle change - Standard awards being replaced by "EveryDay Award" with variable pricing
What is the Excursionist Perk?
The Excursionist Perk is a free one-way award within select multi-city itineraries. Members who book an itinerary with three or more one-way awards will be eligible to receive one of those one-way awards for free, if it meets all of these conditions:
The Excursionist Perk cannot be in the MileagePlus defined region where your travel originates. (For example, if your journey begins in North America, you will only receive the Excursionist Perk if travel is within a region outside of North America.)
The Excursionist Perk cannot be in the MileagePlus defined region where your travel originates. (For example, if your journey begins in North America, you will only receive the Excursionist Perk if travel is within a region outside of North America.)
- Travel must end in the same MileagePlus defined region where travel originates.
- The origin and destination of the Excursionist Perk is within a single MileagePlus defined region.
- The cabin of service and award type of the free one-way award is the same or lower than the one-way award preceding it.
- If two or more one-way awards qualify for this benefit, only the first occurrence will be free.
Previous thread -- UA award booking,change questions/fees/issues/routing/excursionist problems {Archive}
UA award booking, change questions / issues / routing / excursionist problems
#631
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 22,613
Hello all,
I have 2 awards DTW-FRA on LH in business. The connecting flight FRA-BLQ is now available in economy on an award. Upon calling the 1k desk to add the economy segment, they told me I can't do that because there are no business award seats left DTW-FRA and they can't reprice the whole thing. The layover is 2 hours and 30 minutes, so I'll likely be ok with a self-transfer but I hate risking it plus costing me 6k extra miles each. Is this legitimate, or HUCA?
Thanks.
I have 2 awards DTW-FRA on LH in business. The connecting flight FRA-BLQ is now available in economy on an award. Upon calling the 1k desk to add the economy segment, they told me I can't do that because there are no business award seats left DTW-FRA and they can't reprice the whole thing. The layover is 2 hours and 30 minutes, so I'll likely be ok with a self-transfer but I hate risking it plus costing me 6k extra miles each. Is this legitimate, or HUCA?
Thanks.
#632
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: DAY
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Hello all,
I have 2 awards DTW-FRA on LH in business. The connecting flight FRA-BLQ is now available in economy on an award. Upon calling the 1k desk to add the economy segment, they told me I can't do that because there are no business award seats left DTW-FRA and they can't reprice the whole thing. The layover is 2 hours and 30 minutes, so I'll likely be ok with a self-transfer but I hate risking it plus costing me 6k extra miles each. Is this legitimate, or HUCA?
Thanks.
I have 2 awards DTW-FRA on LH in business. The connecting flight FRA-BLQ is now available in economy on an award. Upon calling the 1k desk to add the economy segment, they told me I can't do that because there are no business award seats left DTW-FRA and they can't reprice the whole thing. The layover is 2 hours and 30 minutes, so I'll likely be ok with a self-transfer but I hate risking it plus costing me 6k extra miles each. Is this legitimate, or HUCA?
Thanks.
They have really tightened down on piecing things together. If it isn't available as a fresh booking on the computer, pretty rare to get anything adjusted.
#633
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
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TAP can have some very attractive J fares to Europe. We booked some recently at $2.2k - destinations like AMS can run as low as $1.8k. While it will not be easy either to find J7 either - a lot better chance than finding I7
#634
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 15
Good morning. I currently have a flight booked from AKL to LAX for 100,000 United miles. However, my final destination is MCI. When I go into United to change my trip, there is currently an option for 100,000 United miles that includes the original AKL to LAX flight, but adds on LAX to SFO and SFO to MCI. I'm able to make the selection, select my seats, but I get an error when checking out. I just got done chatting with them online and they tell me its impossible to make a change to an existing reservation that keeps the existing flight and adds on additional flights, he stated they would receive the same error if they tried to make the change for me. This doesn't seem to be correct, but wanted to see if anyone has ever had a similar experience.
#635
Join Date: Dec 2022
Programs: UA1K
Posts: 608
Good morning. I currently have a flight booked from AKL to LAX for 100,000 United miles. However, my final destination is MCI. When I go into United to change my trip, there is currently an option for 100,000 United miles that includes the original AKL to LAX flight, but adds on LAX to SFO and SFO to MCI. I'm able to make the selection, select my seats, but I get an error when checking out. I just got done chatting with them online and they tell me its impossible to make a change to an existing reservation that keeps the existing flight and adds on additional flights, he stated they would receive the same error if they tried to make the change for me. This doesn't seem to be correct, but wanted to see if anyone has ever had a similar experience.
#636
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 15
Risk aversion I suppose. The flight is in a couple of weeks and the AKL to LAX is in business class. If I start a search from the start for AKL to MCI the routing that is showing as available for me to change my existing reservation to is not one of the options to book a new itinerary for, and alternative options are showing at 300k.
#637
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,402
Good morning. I currently have a flight booked from AKL to LAX for 100,000 United miles. However, my final destination is MCI. When I go into United to change my trip, there is currently an option for 100,000 United miles that includes the original AKL to LAX flight, but adds on LAX to SFO and SFO to MCI. I'm able to make the selection, select my seats, but I get an error when checking out. I just got done chatting with them online and they tell me its impossible to make a change to an existing reservation that keeps the existing flight and adds on additional flights, he stated they would receive the same error if they tried to make the change for me. This doesn't seem to be correct, but wanted to see if anyone has ever had a similar experience.
Also, unless I'm mistaken AKL-LAX is only operated by NZ. If the only segments on the reservation are on NZ there may be a restrictive endorsement in play that is preventing automatic reissuance and may prohibit most if not all UA agents from reissuing the same ticket with non-NZ segments. For example, a purely United MP redemption will carry the endorsement "VALID UA ONLY" and since reissued tickets carry the most restrictive endorsement...
Edit: just saw that you mentioned this is not an option for a new booking so that won't work. If you cancel the existing ticket, especially if it's not UA operated, there is no guarantee that the inventory you currently hold would be returned to availability (immediately or ever)
#638
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Due to the nature of award changes (and there only be one business award fare class I), when you attempt to make a change, it is not an additive process but rather the entire routing is repriced (just as it would be for a cash ticket). But in this case when repricing / revalidated the NZ segment their is no inventory which is required for awards. Yes, understand you already hold space but that is no sufficient for a partner award changes. A few partners will revalidate unchanged existing award space but most will not. You are actually lucky the system failed because if it had gone forward more likely than not you existing reservation will have been lost.
For most partners, you should only attempt an award change if the new itin is presently available as a "new" award, with new award space.
This is a common question in this thread, and you can read of the tale of woe of some that have lost the partner awards attempting to make changes. I hope the error you received is a new practice by UA to prevent lost awards.
This is an unfortunate limitation for awards.
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#639
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 15
All of these replies make sense, which begs the question as to why United presents it as an option for me up until the point of clicking the check out now button. If its not eligible to be changed, don't present it as a route that I'm eligible to change to, allow me to pick seats on the additional flights, and then proceed to check out before presenting the error. I do appreciate all the explanations though, I'll chalk this up to another limitation of airline technology/websites.